Is the Direction of Magnetic Fields Truly Conventional?

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Based on what theory do they mark the magnetic field from north to south?
In many books, the direction of the magnetic field is mentioned as north to south. It says they have marked it because the north pole of the compass faces to south. But why can't we say the direction is the opposite of it as the south also attracts to north? When I browsed answers, most replies were saying it was conventional. Then exactly what could be the direction of the magnetic field? Actually, is there a direction at all? Can it be call a vector quantity
 
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pgirl1729 said:
But why can't we say the direction is the opposite of it as the south also attracts to north?
You can. But then you have to remind everyone you communicate with that you're using the opposite sign convention to everyone else. And you have to work out where to put the minus signs in the maths because you've defined one vector as minus the usual definition.
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Actually, is there a direction at all? Can it be call a vector quantity
Yes, the magnetic field is a vector field, yes it has a direction.
 
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How would you prove it has a direction? In displacement, the direction can be determined by seeing the motion.
 
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How would one prove it has a direction?
Predict an effect based on assuming it's a vector (e.g., that electronics work) then test it (they do).
 
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The magnetic field exerts a force on a moving charge. That force obviously has a direction.
 
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Ibix said:
Predict an effect based on assuming it's a vector (e.g., that electronics work) then test it (they do).
That helped. Thank you!
 
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pgirl1729 said:
TL;DR Summary: Based on what theory do they mark the magnetic field from north to south?

Then exactly what could be the direction of the magnetic field? Actually, is there a direction at all? Can it be call a vector quantity
As @Ibix said, the direction is a matter of convention. We have written all of our formulas with the right hand rule convention such that the field vectors point out of a north pole and into a south pole. We could instead use a left hand rule and the field vectors would point out of a south pole and into a north pole.

Technically, objects that behave this way are not actually vectors. Instead they are called pseudo-vectors. In 3 dimensions they behave a lot like actual vectors, except that under certain transformations of the coordinates they get flipped.
 
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1. Is the direction of magnetic fields truly conventional?

Yes, the direction of magnetic fields is considered conventional and follows the right-hand rule. This rule states that if you point your thumb in the direction of current flow, your fingers will curl in the direction of the magnetic field.

2. How do we determine the direction of magnetic fields?

The direction of magnetic fields can be determined using the right-hand rule. For a straight current-carrying wire, point your right thumb in the direction of the current flow, and your fingers will curl in the direction of the magnetic field.

3. Can the direction of magnetic fields be reversed?

Yes, the direction of magnetic fields can be reversed by reversing the direction of current flow. This will cause the magnetic field lines to also reverse direction according to the right-hand rule.

4. Are there any exceptions to the right-hand rule for determining magnetic field direction?

While the right-hand rule is generally used to determine the direction of magnetic fields, there are some cases, such as in solenoids or coils, where the direction may be determined using the corkscrew rule. In these cases, the direction of the current flow in the coil will determine the direction of the magnetic field.

5. Why is it important to understand the direction of magnetic fields?

Understanding the direction of magnetic fields is crucial in various applications, such as designing electromagnets, motors, and transformers. It helps in predicting the behavior of magnetic fields and their interactions with other magnetic materials.

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