Direction of max strain from Mohr's circle

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the direction of maximum strain using Mohr's circle. Participants are exploring the relationship between angles and strain directions, particularly in the context of an online calculator's output versus traditional assumptions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the direction of maximum strain, initially believing it to occur at 90 degrees from the normal axis or 45 degrees in practical scenarios.
  • Another participant clarifies that the angle plotted on Mohr's circle is 2θ, indicating that maximum shear stress occurs at 2θ=90 degrees, which corresponds to 45 degrees relative to the principal directions of strain.
  • A participant questions the validity of the equation used by the online calculator, which is tan2θ = - (εxx - εyy) / 2εxy, and expresses uncertainty about the implications for the direction of maximum shear strain.
  • Further clarification is provided that the angle θ in the calculator's context does not correspond to the angle with respect to the maximum principal stress, but rather to the x coordinate direction, which may lead to confusion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the angle in relation to maximum strain and the validity of the online calculator's output. Multiple viewpoints regarding the relationship between angles and strain directions remain present.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in understanding the definitions and assumptions related to angles in Mohr's circle, as well as the implications of using different equations for strain analysis.

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Homework Statement


Hi,

I am doing some things with Mohr's circle. I am trying to find the direction of max strain but I am a bit confused. How can I do this?

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The Attempt at a Solution


I always assumed that the max strain occurs at 90O from the normal axis or 45O in real life. But I used a online calculator and got an angle of about 40O so that means that it isn't always at 45 like I thought.

Can anyone lend a hand?

Thanks!
 
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You do know that the angle plotted on the Mohr's circle diagram is 2θ, not θ? So the maximum shear stress is at 2θ=90 degrees, indicating that the maximum shear stress occurs on a plane at 45 degrees to the maximum and minimum principal directions of strain. We're not familiar with your online calculator, so we don't know what it is doing. Does it give zero shear stress at 2θ=0 and 2θ=180 degrees?

Chet
 
Hi Chet. Yes I am aware of that thanks. I have found that the calculator uses the equation tan2θ = - (εxx - εyy) / 2εxy. Is that a valid equation? I though, as you said, that the direction of max shear strain is at 45 degrees - I thought that didn't change.
 
GBA13 said:
Hi Chet. Yes I am aware of that thanks. I have found that the calculator uses the equation tan2θ = - (εxx - εyy) / 2εxy. Is that a valid equation? I though, as you said, that the direction of max shear strain is at 45 degrees - I thought that didn't change.
In the analysis that they are using, θ is not the angle that the plane of interest makes with the maximum principal stress. It is the angle that the plane of interest makes with the x coordinate direction (which is not a principal direction). See this link and the figure in the section entitled "Drawing Mohr's Circle." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohr's_circle

Chet
 

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