Direction of voltage and electric field

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The discussion centers on the equations E = - grad(U) and E = U/d, focusing on the implications of the negative sign in the first equation. The negative sign indicates that the electric field vector points in the direction of decreasing voltage. A scenario is presented involving a positively charged ceiling and a negatively charged floor, where a positive charge moves downward to reduce potential energy. The current's designation as positive or negative depends on the chosen reference direction, highlighting the importance of explicitly stating direction to avoid confusion. Clarity in defining current direction is emphasized for accurate understanding.
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Hi guys,

in a physics book I found the equation E = - grad(U) and in another one E=U/d with E:electric field, U:voltage, d:distance. The minus sign confuses me. Can anybody explain that to me, please?

I am thinking of a room with a positively charged ceiling and a negatively charged floor. So a positive charge will move towards the floor to reduce the potential energy. In that case, is the current I positive or negative?

Thanks a lot.
Basti
 
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BassTea said:
Hi guys,

in a physics book I found the equation E = - grad(U) and in another one E=U/d with E:electric field, U:voltage, d:distance. The minus sign confuses me. Can anybody explain that to me, please?

The former is the correct general form. The latter is probably a simplification where one is only interested in the magnitude of a constant E-field. It is a simplification of the former.

Zz.
 
Yes that's correct, the negative sign tells us the the E vector points in the direction of decreasing voltage.
 
BassTea said:
I am thinking of a room with a positively charged ceiling and a negatively charged floor. So a positive charge will move towards the floor to reduce the potential energy. In that case, is the current I positive or negative?

It depends on which direction you call "positive" or "negative." If you call the direction from the floor to the ceiling "positive," then the current is negative in this case. If you call the direction from the ceiling to the floor "positive," then the current is positive in this case.

When there is any chance of confusion in a situation like this, I prefer to specify the direction explicitly, in this case "downward," instead of saying "positive" or "negative."
 
Thank a lot. You're great help.
 
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