Directional wireless broadband antenna

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of using an old satellite dish to create a directional antenna for boosting the signal strength of a Clear wireless broadband connection. Participants explore the feasibility of modifying existing equipment and the technical requirements involved in such a project, including considerations of frequency and signal amplification.

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Main Points Raised

  • Patrick inquires about converting an old DISH or DirecTV satellite receiver into a transmitter/receiver unit, seeking advice on necessary modifications and whether an amplifier is needed.
  • One participant suggests researching the frequencies involved, indicating that they may differ from those used in WiFi, and recommends looking into Yagi antennas for directional options.
  • Another participant notes that wireless broadband in their region operates at approximately 900 MHz and 1900 MHz, distinguishing it from typical WiFi frequencies.
  • There is a suggestion that while using an old satellite dish is possible, it may be impractical due to the distance from the tower and the limited gain at higher frequencies.
  • A participant provides a link to a long thread that discusses building antennas and modifying dishes, suggesting it may contain useful information for Patrick's project.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the practicality and effectiveness of using an old satellite dish for this purpose, with some suggesting alternative antenna types like Yagi antennas for better performance. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various frequencies and types of antennas, highlighting that standards may vary by region. There is uncertainty regarding the specific modifications needed for the satellite dish and the effectiveness of such modifications at the stated distance from the signal source.

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I have a Clear wireless broadband box at the place I'm renting a room at, but I'm at the outer edge of the tower's range. I want to boost the signal strength using a directional antenna.

There are a number of old DISH and DirecTV satellite receivers floating about, and I can get one for free. Is it possible to convert it to being a transmitter/receiver unit? I know I'll need to remove the old satellite receiver unit at the end of the arm; I just need to know what to replace it with, and if I'd need an amplifier for the outbound signal.

I'm about 2/3 to 3/4 of a mile away from the antenna, and there are trees and houses in the direct path of the signal.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.


Patrick
 
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Flyboy said:
I have a Clear wireless broadband box at the place I'm renting a room at, but I'm at the outer edge of the tower's range. I want to boost the signal strength using a directional antenna.

There are a number of old DISH and DirecTV satellite receivers floating about, and I can get one for free. Is it possible to convert it to being a transmitter/receiver unit? I know I'll need to remove the old satellite receiver unit at the end of the arm; I just need to know what to replace it with, and if I'd need an amplifier for the outbound signal.

I'm about 2/3 to 3/4 of a mile away from the antenna, and there are trees and houses in the direct path of the signal.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.


Patrick

What are the frequencies involved? Use Google or some other means to figure that out. I think you'll find that they are different.

So then look at Yagi antennas for the WiFi directional antenna that you would like to use. Actually, your wireless provider should have some directional router options available if you ask about them...
 
This sounds like Wireless Broadband where there is no connection made to the telephone line and a direct radio link is made to an external ISP via radio.

In my country, this is done on about 900 MHz and about 1900 MHz.

This is not the same as WiFi which is lower powered and limited to 100 ft or so.

There are antennas on eBay that do this
Eg 141039807319
But you should enquire locally as standards for frequencies and even plug types vary for different regions.
 
Thanks for the info. Now, the question is, could I use an old satellite TV receiver dish with a modified antenna to improve the range of the signal?
 
Flyboy said:
Thanks for the info. Now, the question is, could I use an old satellite TV receiver dish with a modified antenna to improve the range of the signal?

you could but at the distance from the tower that you stated, it would be a impractical
plus for the usual size of a house mounted satellite dish ( the oval ones 0.6 x 0.9 metre) its not going to have much gain at 1900 MHz a yagi of ~ 10 elements will be more efficient and smaller meaning it will be less of an eyesore ( less than 0.5 metre long)

Dave
 
Flyboy said:
There are a number of old DISH and DirecTV satellite receivers floating about, and I can get one for free. Is it possible to convert it to being a transmitter/receiver unit? I know I'll need to remove the old satellite receiver unit at the end of the arm; I just need to know what to replace it with, and if I'd need an amplifier for the outbound signal.
Patrick, you might like to spend a few hours perusing a very long thread here: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2082278

Of especial interest would be the right hand link on the line that reads:
Relevant Wiki Entries: /wiki/homemade_yagi | /wiki/nextg_3g_satellite_dish_antenna

The article shows how to build a small antenna and place it at the focus of the old dish.

Beyond this, I can't help.

Good luck with your project.
 
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