Disc Rotation: Mass m & Radius r Down Slope of tan^-1 3/4

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of a disc of mass m and radius r rolling down a slope inclined at an angle of tan^-1 3/4. Participants explore the relationships between forces, torques, and accelerations involved in the motion of the disc, aiming to derive the linear acceleration of the disc as it rolls without slipping.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant begins by stating the problem and attempts to derive equations for the forces acting on the disc, leading to expressions for the normal force and friction.
  • Another participant elaborates on the net force acting on the disc, relating it to the component of the weight along the incline and the frictional force, and introduces torque and moment of inertia concepts.
  • A third participant confirms obtaining the linear acceleration of 2/5 g when solving for it but expresses confusion regarding the full solution and the meaning of the relationship between linear and angular acceleration.
  • A later reply clarifies the relationship between linear acceleration and angular acceleration for rolling objects, stating that a = Rα.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to agree on the derivation leading to the linear acceleration of 2/5 g, but there is some uncertainty regarding the complete solution and the interpretation of the equations involved.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions and definitions may be missing, such as the moment of inertia for the disc and the specific values for mass and radius. The discussion does not resolve all mathematical steps or clarify all relationships fully.

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This discussion may be useful for students studying dynamics, particularly those interested in rotational motion and the mechanics of rolling objects.

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a disc of mass m and radius r rolls down a slope of incline tan^-1 3/4. the slope is rough enough to prevent slipping. the disc travels from rest a distance of s metres straight down the slope.
(i) show that the linear acceleration of the disc is 2/5 g.
what i did was i first revolved the forces and i got 2 equations
R=4/5 g and 3/5 mg-F=ma but i don't know where to from here
 
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Okay, if we recognize that the net force $F=Ma_{\text{CM}}$ on the disk parallel to the incline is the component of the disk's weight parallel to the incline less the force of friction $f$ keeping the disk from slipping, we may write (letting $\theta$ be the angle of the incline above the horizontal):

$$Mg\sin(\theta)-f=Ma_{\text{CM}}$$

The force of friction results in a torque about the center of mass, having a lever arm $R$, so we may write (where $I$ is the moment of inertia for the disk):

$$\tau=Rf=I\alpha$$

Solving for $f$, there results:

$$f=\frac{I\alpha}{R}$$

And so we now have:

$$Mg\sin(\theta)-\frac{I\alpha}{R}=Ma_{\text{CM}}$$

Now, we may relate the angular acceleration $\alpha$ of the disk to its linear acceleration$a$ as follows:

$$a=R\alpha$$

Since the disk rolls without slipping, we know:

$$a=a_{\text{CM}}$$

Hence:

$$\alpha=\frac{a_{\text{CM}}}{R}$$

And now we have:

$$Mg\sin(\theta)-\frac{I\dfrac{a_{\text{CM}}}{R}}{R}=Ma_{\text{CM}}$$

Or:

$$Mg\sin(\theta)-\frac{Ia_{\text{CM}}}{R^2}=Ma_{\text{CM}}$$

So, what do you get when you solve for $a_{\text{CM}}$?
 
i get 2/5 g when i solve for a but i don't get your full solution. what is the formula of a disc for angular acceleration what does a=Ra stand for.
 
For a rolling object (circular such as a cylinder, sphere, disk, hoop, etc.) of radius $R$, the linear acceleration $a$ and the angular acceleration $\alpha$ are related as follows:

$$a=R\alpha$$
 

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