Discrete LTI filter impulse response

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To calculate the time for the output of a discrete-time LTI system to fall below 1% of its initial value after a unit impulse, one must analyze the unit impulse response function h[n]. The modified impulse response function h[n] = (1 - α²)α^(n-1)u[n-1] - αδ[n-1] converges for α < 1. The inequality to solve for n is h[n] < 0.01 · h[0], leading to the expression n < ln(0.01α(1 - α - α²)/(1 - α²))/ln(α). This can also be represented in logarithmic form as n < log_α(0.01α(1 - α - α²)/(1 - α²)). The discussion emphasizes the importance of ensuring the system's response decays to apply this method effectively.
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If I have the unit impulse response function for a discrete-time LTI system (Unit sequence response?), h[n], how can I calculate the time taken for the output to fall below 1% of its initial value, after a unit impulse is applied to the input?

In particular, I have:

h[n]=(\alpha ^{-1}-\alpha )u[n-1]-\alpha \delta [n-1]
 
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optrix said:
If I have the unit impulse response function for a discrete-time LTI system (Unit sequence response?), h[n], how can I calculate the time taken for the output to fall below 1% of its initial value, after a unit impulse is applied to the input?

In particular, I have:

h[n]=(\alpha ^{-1}-\alpha )u[n-1]-\alpha \delta [n-1]

Can you just run a simulation? I've used Excel for that before.
 
berkeman said:
Can you just run a simulation? I've used Excel for that before.

I could do, but I would like to know the method for determining it algebraically.
 
That h[n] doesn't seem to decay, so it will never fall bellow 1% of its initial value.

But, for others h[n] which do decay, I will solve for n this simple inequality:

h[n] < 0.01 · h[0]
 
falbani said:
That h[n] doesn't seem to decay, so it will never fall bellow 1% of its initial value.

But, for others h[n] which do decay, I will solve for n this simple inequality:

h[n] < 0.01 · h[0]

Thank you, it was meant to be:

h[n]=(1-\alpha ^2)\alpha ^{n-1}u[n-1]-\alpha \delta [n-1]

In which case it will converge for \alpha&lt;1

I managed to get the inequality:

n &lt; \frac{ln\left( \frac{0.01\alpha(1-\alpha-\alpha^2)}{1-\alpha^2} \right)}{ln\alpha}

Is this right?

Edit this could also be written as:

n &lt; \log_\alpha \left( \frac{0.01\alpha(1-\alpha-\alpha^2)}{1-\alpha^2} \right)
 
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