Discriminant Related Question [SOLVED] Discriminant Related Question

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation x^2 - 8x - 29 = (x+a)^2 + b, where constants a and b are determined. The values found are a = -4 and b = -45. The conversation then shifts to finding the roots of the quadratic equation, with the user confirming that the roots can be expressed as x = 4 ± 3√5. The process involves completing the square and simplifying to find the roots. The final solution is confirmed as correct, demonstrating a clear understanding of the problem.
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[SOLVED] Discriminant Related Question

Question

x^2 - 8x - 29 = (x+a)^2 +b, where a and b are constant.

NOTE: The equals sign should be an always equals sign, so like three lines under each other :bugeye:

(a) Find the value of a and b

(b)Hence, or otherwise show the roots of x^2 - 8x - 29 = 0 are c =+/- d\sqrt5 where c and d are integers.

Attempt

(a)x^2 - 8x - 29 = (x+a)^2 +b

(x-4)^2 - 16 - 29 = (x+a)^2 +b

a = -4
b = -45

(b) Erm...not sure, as it says roots I will assume it means two roots so b^2 - 4ac > 0

64 + 116 > 0, yes this is all alright but I am not sure how to get it in the form c =+/- d\sqrt5

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_Mayday_ said:
NOTE: The equals sign should be an always equals sign, so like three lines under each other :bugeye:

Oh that's done with \equiv

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DavidWhitbeck said:
Oh that's done with \equiv

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Cheers!

Anyone got any ideas on how to solve the other question? :smile:
 
What are the roots of the equation x2- 8x- 29= 0? Since you have already "completed the square" that should be easy!
 
By find the roots do they just mean find the possible values for x? The question is what has got me, what do they mean by find the roots? I know I should know this but, I think I have already done the 'hard' bit.
 
(x-4)^2 = 45

\sqrt{45} = +/- 3\sqrt5
 
x - 4 = +\- 3\sqrt5

x = 4 +/- 3\sqrt5
 
I think that is correct, thank you!
 
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