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The discussion revolves around finding the distance from the origin to a given line defined by parametric equations. Participants explore various methods and formulas related to distance calculations in three-dimensional space.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of different distance formulas and the relevance of the equation of a plane perpendicular to the line. There are attempts to derive the equation of a plane and to apply distance formulas, with some questioning the correctness of their approaches and results.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the problem with various interpretations of the distance formula and the equation of the plane. Some participants provide guidance on finding the plane and the minimum distance, while others express uncertainty about their calculations and the implications of using the origin in their equations.

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Some participants mention confusion regarding the application of formulas and the definitions involved in the problem. There are indications of missing clarity on how to correctly set up the equations based on the given line and the origin.

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Homework Statement


Find the distance from the origin to the line
x=1+t
y=2-t
z=-1+2t


Homework Equations



Possibly d=|aXb| / |a|

The Attempt at a Solution



I think I need to use the formula provided above, but I'm not sure how. A different distance formula was covered in class, but I think there are different formulas to use based on what you're trying to find the distance between.

There is an example in the textbook like this that asks to use this formula, but it gives out three points and tells assigns vectors for a and b.

I'm not sure how to approach this.
 
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Find the plane perpendicular to the given line containin (0, 0, 0). The shortest distance from the origin to the line must be along a line in that plane. Where does the line cross that plane?
 
I tried to find an equation of a plane with the parametric equation given to me. I came up with:

x-y+2z=0 - I plugged in the origin points, which makes d=0.

Using the origin as a point, I applied the distance formula (the absolute value of the equation of a plane with the point plugged in divided by the square root of the sum of the normal vector squared), but I'm getting zero for an answer.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Since the origin is a 0,0,0, the equation ofthe line will always cancel out.
 
The distance of a point P from a line is defined as the minimum of the distance of any point on the line from the given point P. Write the distance from the origin of a point (x,y,z) on the line in terms of t and find t where it is minimal.

ehild
 
TrueStar said:
I tried to find an equation of a plane with the parametric equation given to me. I came up with:

x-y+2z=0 - I plugged in the origin points, which makes d=0.

Using the origin as a point, I applied the distance formula (the absolute value of the equation of a plane with the point plugged in divided by the square root of the sum of the normal vector squared), but I'm getting zero for an answer.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Since the origin is a 0,0,0, the equation ofthe line will always cancel out.
I said before, "Where does the line cross that plane?"
 
I think I got the equation of a plane wrong...I think it should be -x-y-3z=0

I used this and the origin points to put into a vector equation:

(0,0,0) + t(-1,-1,-3) - This gives me position vectors of

x=0-t
y=0-t
z=0-3t

I plug this into my equation of a plane which was -x-y-3z=0 so that it looks like:

-1(0-t)-1(0-t)-3(0-3t)=0

This mean t=0. I use this to plug back into the three equations above and I still get (0,0,0). I don't feel this is correct.
 
TrueStar said:
I think I got the equation of a plane wrong...I think it should be -x-y-3z=0

it should be r˙t=0 where t is the direction vector of the line, (1,-1,2), so x-y+2z=0.
Plug in x=1+t, y=2-t and z=-1+2t, and find t.

ehild
 
OK, I think I see what I did wrong with the equation of a line. I think the multiples of t in the parametric equations are the scalers for the equation of a line. I may not have my terminology right here.

So I plugged in the parametric equations for x, y, and z and solved for t. It was 1/2. I understand that this would be a minimum distance.

The points are (3/2, 3/2, 0) and the actual distance is the sqrt of 4.5.

Hopefully this is the correct answer.
 

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