Distance from sources of different intensity to get same loudness

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The problem involves a point source of sound and its intensity as perceived by a listener at varying distances. The original poster presents a scenario where the intensity of the sound is halved, and they seek to determine the new distance required for the sound to seem equally loud.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between intensity and distance, questioning the original poster's calculations and assumptions regarding intensity and power. There are attempts to clarify the formulas related to sound intensity and the implications of halving the intensity.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided alternative formulas and reasoning related to the problem, suggesting a need to review the original poster's approach. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct relationships between power, intensity, and distance, with no clear consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the intensity of the source does not change with distance, which raises questions about the assumptions made in the original poster's calculations. There is also a mention of the need to consider how power relates to intensity in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement



A point source of sound emits energy equally in all directions at a constant rate and a person 8m from the source listens. After a while, the intensity of the source is halved. If the person wishes the sound to seem as loud as before, how far should he be now from the source?

A) 2m B) 2√2m C) 4m D) 4√2m

Homework Equations



Intensity (proportional sign) 1/distance^{2}

Intensity (proportional sign) amplitude (not sure if needed)

The Attempt at a Solution



Answer: D

I = k/d^{2} , where k is a constant.

I= k/8^{2}

k = 64 I

(new I) x (new d^{2}) = 64 I

(0.5 I) x new d^{2} = 64I

new d^{2}= 128

new d = 8√2 (no answer)

Sounds not very logical, but I don't know how am I wrong. Please explain to me.
 
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In your expression I = k/d^2 what symbol represents the intensity of the source?

Your answer is obviously wrong. The naswer has to be < 8m!
 
I represents intensity.
 
The intensity of the source does not depend on distance from the source.
Review your formulas. You must have one that relates the power emitted by the source with the intensity received at a given distance.
 
coconut62 said:
I represents intensity.

No, I represents intensity at the location d. In other words, I = I(d).
 
I think this is the formula needed:

Intensity = Power/4∏r^{2}

So the intensity of the sound where the person stood was P/256∏.

It is now halved. So the power gets halved too.

P= 128∏I

since P = 4∏r^{2}I

128∏I=4∏r^{2}I

r=4√2

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
coconut62 said:
i think this is the formula needed:

Intensity = power/4∏r^{2}

so the intensity of the sound where the person stood was p/256∏.

It is now halved. So the power gets halved too.

P= 128∏i

since p = 4∏r^{2}i

128∏i=4∏r^{2}i

r=4√2

please correct me if I'm wrong.

a-ok!
 

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