Intensities at different distances

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The problem involves calculating the necessary decibel level for a speaker at a greater distance to match the intensity of sound from a closer speaker. The context is sound intensity and decibel levels, specifically focusing on how distance affects perceived loudness.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between sound intensity and distance, referencing relevant equations. Questions arise regarding how to account for distance in calculating sound intensity and whether to add decibel levels directly or convert them to intensity before combining.

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Some participants have provided calculations and explored the implications of their results. There is an ongoing examination of how to properly combine decibel levels, with differing opinions on the method to use.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem statement and the provided equations, questioning assumptions about sound intensity and the effects of distance on decibel levels.

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Homework Statement


Person A, who is 1.5 meters away from me is speaking to me at a decibel level of 25dB. How loud does person B, who is 15 meters away from me need to speak in decibels to submit me to the same intensity of sound?

Homework Equations


Ia/Ib=rb^2/ra^2
∆dB=10log(Ia/Ib)

The Attempt at a Solution


I figured I should start by figuring out the intensity of sound I would be experiencing if someone way 1.5m away from me and speaking at 25dB however, I can't seem to find a way to acount for the distance between me and person A. Any Ideas on how to start? Thanks.
 
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Ethan_Tab said:

Homework Statement


Person A, who is 1.5 meters away from me is speaking to me at a decibel level of 25dB. How loud does person B, who is 15 meters away from me need to speak in decibels to submit me to the same intensity of sound?

Homework Equations


Ia/Ib=rb^2/ra^2
∆dB=10log(Ia/Ib)

The Attempt at a Solution


I figured I should start by figuring out the intensity of sound I would be experiencing if someone way 1.5m away from me and speaking at 25dB however, I can't seem to find a way to acount for the distance between me and person A. Any Ideas on how to start? Thanks.

Using your first equation, what is the ratio Ia/Ib for this problem? And using your 2nd equation, what is the ∆dB number? And given that the closer speaker is speaking at 25dB, what level does your result imply that the more distant speaker has to speak at? :smile:
 
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So since the ratio Ia/Ib is 100 we can figure out the ∆dB level:

∆dB=10log(100)
=20

And since person B is farther away then person A is, he will have to speak louder then person A by a factor of 20 decibels.

Do I just add the two decibels now 20+25=45dB? Or do I have to convert both decibel levels to W/m^2, add them and then convert them back into dB which would give me a decibel level of 26.193dB.
 
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Do I just add the two decibels now 20+25=45dB?

Correct! :smile:
 
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