Do 3-4-5 Triangles Have to be 30-45-90?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of a 3-4-5 triangle, specifically questioning whether it must have angles of 30 and 45 degrees. The context includes a physics problem involving a triangle with legs measuring 3 feet and 4 feet, leading to a hypotenuse of 5 feet, with a need to determine the angles.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the side lengths and angles of a triangle, questioning the validity of a 30-45-90 triangle configuration. Some express uncertainty about the angles that can be formed with the given side lengths and discuss the use of trigonometric functions to find these angles.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering various insights into the properties of triangles and the application of trigonometric functions. Some participants have suggested using the law of sines and the definitions of sine, cosine, and tangent to find the angles, while others have raised questions about the assumptions regarding the triangle's configuration.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and applications of trigonometric functions, with participants questioning the implications of having a right triangle and the fixed nature of angles given specific side lengths. The discussion reflects a mix of confidence and uncertainty among participants regarding their understanding of the topic.

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Hey, I have quick question. I tried looking on google, but couldn't quite reassure myself.

Does a 3-4-5 triangle have to be a 30-45-90 triangle? Can the angles be any angle?(this is what I think...but not confident).

I have a triangle(this is actually a physics problem)...but the triangle has a leg which is 3' and a leg that is 4'...so the hyp must be 5'...but i need to know the angles.

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Bradracer18 said:

Homework Statement



Hey, I have quick question. I tried looking on google, but couldn't quite reassure myself.

Does a 3-4-5 triangle have to be a 30-45-90 triangle? Can the angles be any angle?(this is what I think...but not confident).

No, a 3-4-5 triangle does not have a 30 or 45 degree angle.
No.

Bradracer18 said:
I have a triangle(this is actually a physics problem)...but the triangle has a leg which is 3' and a leg that is 4'...so the hyp must be 5'...but i need to know the angles.

what is the definition of the trigonometric functions: sine, cosine, and tangent?
 
There exists no triangle with 30-45-90 angles. The sum of the angles must be 180.

It should be noted that the majority of sine, cosine and tangent arguments only work for right angled triangles.

It's not necessarily true that a RIGHT triangle with 3 inch and a 4 inch lengths will have another side of length 5. How do you know that 4 isn't the hypoteneuse?
 
Bradracer18 said:
Does a 3-4-5 triangle have to be a 30-45-90 triangle?


The angles of a triangle add up to 180 degrees, so a 30-45-90 triangle is impossible.

Can the angles be any angle?(this is what I think...but not confident).

No, if you have the length of all 3 sides, the 3 angles are fixed.

You can find the angles of any shape of triangle using the cosine rule, if you know all three sides. For a 3-4-5 triangle, you know one angle is right angle, so you can save time and use the definitions of sine and cosine instead of using the full cosine rule.
 
I have a picture...I guess I'm having a brain fart...

I know there is a 90 deg angle(where the 3 and 4 sides meet,angle opposite from the hyp)...so then, can't i use the law of sines to find the angles?

I know the def's of trig functions...what does that help...opp/adj...opp/hyp...adj/hyp...
 
Bradracer18 said:
I know the def's of trig functions...what does that help...opp/adj...opp/hyp...adj/hyp...

What specifically is equal to "opp/adj"? etc...
 
ok...so can't I just do this...

sin90/5 = sinx/3 which I think gives me a 36.87 deg angle. This is what I came up with in the begining...just didn't seem right.
 
tan = opp/adj...or I think its also sin/cos(or something like that...y/x?)...definitely know its tan.
 
Bradracer18 said:
I know there is a 90 deg angle(where the 3 and 4 sides meet,angle opposite from the hyp)...so then, can't i use the law of sines to find the angles?

Yes, that's yet another way to do it if you don't like the other suggestions.
 
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ok...well I think I've got it then...thanks all! A nice brush up on my trig skills...ha
 

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