Do index gymnastics change a tensor's dimensions?

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of the metric tensor to convert a velocity vector into a covector on a 3D manifold. The question is whether the resulting covector represents the same quantity as the original vector or its inverse. It is noted that this pattern may apply in 4D spacetime where time is one of the coordinates, but not in a 3D space where time is not a coordinate. The conversation also explores a scenario where the velocity is represented as a covector and the temperature gradient as a vector, and questions whether the resulting inner product is the same as the original. It is concluded that in Euclidean space with a Cartesian coordinate system, the numerical components of a vector and its dual are the same and
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Suppose I have a velocity field [itex] V^a [/itex] which looks like [itex] < \partial x / \partial t , \partial y / \partial t , \partial z / \partial t > [/itex] and I use the metric tensor to change it into a covector field [tex] V_a = g_{ab}V^a. [/tex] Does it then represent the same quantity or [itex] < \partial t / \partial x, \partial t / \partial y , \partial t / \partial z > [/itex] instead? I ask because long ago I read that vectors (like velocity) — when expressed as a set of partial derivatives — have spatial components in their numerators while covectors (like gradient) have them in their denominators. This would suggest - in this case at least - that the covector V would represent time per distance traveled instead of distance traveled per time.
 
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The thing that goes - in a loose sense - from the numerator to the denominator when we take the dual of a vector is ##dx_i## where ##x_i## is one of the coordinates in the coordinate system. This is apparent by the way the basis vectors and dual vectors are written:

##\frac{\partial}{\partial x_i}## for basis vector ##\vec e_i## and ##dx_i## for dual basis vector (aka covector or one-form) ##\tilde p^i %= g^{ij}\vec e_j = g^{ij}\frac{\partial}{\partial x_j}##.

In the case of the OP the derivatives are with respect to ##t##, which is not a coordinate of any coordinate system of the 3D manifold. So this pattern does not apply.

In a 4D spacetime manifold, as used in relativity theory, something analogous to what you write may apply, because in that case ##t## will be one of the coordinates. But in relativity theory velocity vectors ('four-velocities') are unitless.
 
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Thanks, andrewkirk. If you don't mind I'd like to change my example a little:

Suppose the air temperature in a room varies in a smooth, continuous way, and the function T(x,y,z) represents this temperature at a point. Also suppose that a particle in the room moves along a smooth path and at a given moment occupies point (x,y,z) and moves at velocity v(t). If I want to know the rate at which the air temperature in the immediate vicinity of the particle is changing with respect to time, I can

- treat the particle velocity as a vector [itex] v = ( \partial x / \partial t, \partial y / \partial t, \partial z / \partial t ) [/itex]

- find the gradient of the temperature function to form the covector [itex] G = ( \partial T / \partial x , \partial T / \partial y, \partial T/ \partial z ) [/itex]

- and then find the inner product in the direct way
[tex]
v \cdot G = \frac {\partial x}{ \partial t} \frac {\partial T }{\partial x } + \frac {\partial y}{ \partial t} \frac {\partial T }{\partial y } + \frac {\partial z}{ \partial t} \frac {\partial T }{\partial z } = \frac {dT}{dt}
[/tex]
So I'm wondering what this would look like if I decide to first use index gymnastics to make the velocity into a covector and the temperature gradient into a vector.

If I decide to represent velocity as [itex] v = ( \partial t / \partial x , \partial t / \partial y, \partial t/ \partial z ) [/itex]
and the temperature spatial derivative as [itex] G = ( \partial x / \partial T, \partial y / \partial T, \partial z / \partial T ) [/itex]
and find the inner product of these two rank one tensors, I'd get
[tex]
v \cdot G = \frac {\partial t}{ \partial x} \frac {\partial x }{\partial T } + \frac {\partial t}{ \partial y} \frac {\partial y }{\partial T } + \frac {\partial t}{ \partial z} \frac {\partial z }{\partial T } = \frac {dt}{dT}
[/tex], the inverse of what I got the first way.

This all seems logical except that the two tensors above described with partial derivatives make it appear that time is a function of spatial position and that spatial position is a function of temperature, and that gives me a headache.
 
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Re-reading your response, I see that I have repeated my problem in that neither time nor temperature are parts of the spatial coordinate system (x,y,z). Nevertheless, I'm wondering what exactly would happen if I indeed decided to make the velocity a covector and the temperature gradient a vector. Would the quantities that they represent - and the iner product of those quantities - be exactly the same?
 
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If the space is ordinary Euclidean space and the coordinate system is the usual Cartesian system then the metric tensor will be the 3D identity matrix, so the numerical components of each vector will be the same as those of its dual (covector). The inner product will be the same.

If on the other hand a different coordinate system such as spherical coordinates were used, the vectors would have different components from their duals.
 
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Afterthought: Since the magnitude ds of a rank one tensor does not depend on whether it is expressed as a vector or a covector (I actually took the trouble to test this myself with a random metric that was not the identity metric), then doing index gymnastics to change a velocity vector into a covector does not change what it represents into its inverse, otherwise this quantity would change as well. That is, if a velocity vector has magnitude 3 and represents 3 meters per second in a particular direction, then the length of its corresponding covector is also 3 and therefore does not represent the quantity 1/3 seconds per meter.
 
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1. What are index gymnastics?

Index gymnastics refer to the manipulation and rearrangement of the indices in a tensor to simplify or solve a mathematical problem.

2. How do index gymnastics affect a tensor's dimensions?

Index gymnastics can change a tensor's dimensions by rearranging the indices and combining them in different ways. This can result in a tensor with different dimensions than the original one.

3. Can index gymnastics change the type of a tensor?

Yes, index gymnastics can change the type of a tensor. For example, a tensor can be transformed from a covariant tensor to a contravariant tensor or vice versa through index gymnastics.

4. Are there any rules or guidelines for performing index gymnastics?

Yes, there are rules and guidelines for performing index gymnastics. These include the Einstein summation convention, the rule of index contraction, and the rule of index raising and lowering.

5. How important is understanding index gymnastics in the field of science?

Understanding index gymnastics is crucial in many areas of science, particularly in fields that use tensors and differential geometry, such as physics and engineering. It allows scientists to simplify complex mathematical problems and make connections between different concepts and equations.

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