Do Numbers Exist Independently or Are They Just Human Inventions?

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The discussion centers on whether numbers and mathematics exist independently of human thought or are merely human inventions. The original poster expresses a belief in the independent existence of numbers but seeks theories to support this view for a university essay. Participants suggest exploring the philosophy of mathematics, highlighting various schools of thought such as Platonism and Logicism. They emphasize the importance of supporting personal viewpoints with established theories and mention that these arguments apply broadly to all mathematical concepts, not just numbers. Engaging with these philosophical perspectives can strengthen the essay's argument.
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I got a question for uni about whether numbers and mathematics have an independent existence, or are simply a human invention... i personally believe they have an independent existence, but i doubt my lecturer will appreaciate an essay on my own point of view haha...

does anyone know some of the theories that are out there on the matter? its a very interesting question, but iv only gotten as far as Plato's physical and platonic worlds... not much real science or maths involved in it were i found my info haha
 
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PS. i didnt know where 2 put this question... it doesn't really fit here =P
 
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I got a question for uni about whether numbers and mathematics have an independent existence, or are simply a human invention... i personally believe they have an independent existence, but i doubt my lecturer will appreaciate an essay on my own point of view haha...

does anyone know some of the theories that are out there on the matter? its a very interesting question, but iv only gotten as far as Plato's physical and platonic worlds... not much real science or maths involved in it were i found my info haha

It sounds like a question that requires an opinionated response, so I think your own point of view is exactly what they're looking for, as long as you have support of course.
 
Well the existence of something metaphysical without beeings with reasoning going on in their head is not what you want to have in a naturalistic world view ;)
 
The philosophy of mathematics covers this and related questions. You can start with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_mathematics#Contemporary_schools_of_thought", which summarizes Platonism, Logicism, Empiricism, Formalism, Intuitionism, Constructivism, etc. There are plenty of options.

Oh, also, these arguments usually apply to all mathematical objects or theories, not only specifically to numbers, so you'll probably want to check and keep that in mind.
 
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