Does Pure Rolling Exclude Kinetic Friction?

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Pure rolling involves static friction at the point of contact, which is not zero but does no work unless the object is being accelerated. On a rough surface, static friction acts to prevent slipping, and its magnitude is influenced by external forces. When rolling freely on a horizontal surface, static friction can be zero, but it becomes significant when external forces, like inclines, are present. Additionally, rolling friction, distinct from static and kinetic friction, arises from surface deformation and energy loss during motion. Overall, pure rolling excludes kinetic friction, which only occurs during slipping.
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Is friction always zero when pure rolling has begun? Or is it static? Is there a difference between saying static friction at the point of contact and zero friction at the point of contact at the time when pure rolling has begun? That is of course for a rough surface on which the object is rolling.
 
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The friction is static during pure rolling, and the force of static friction Fs≤μN.

Fs=0 during free rolling on horizontal surface, but different from zero when other external force acts, for example, when rolling on an incline.

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Static fiction is there for a rolling object, but does no work unless the object is being accelerated, and then static friction comes into play (think about situations such as a car accelerating or braking, or being shoved sideways while the car travels straight ahead). The magnitude of the static friction force depends upon external forces acting to try to accelerate the object.

There's another type of friction called rolling friction which is separate from the kinetic or static versions. It's a friction that manifests due to deformation of the surfaces in contact. Think about the way a car tire flexes out-of-round as it rolls. The flexing consumes energy (which is why car tires become warm as you drive). The surface on which an object rolls may also be deformed by the weight of the object. In such a case the object is effectively always rolling out of a small depression as it moves along.
 
gneill said:
Static fiction is there for a rolling object, but does no work unless the object is being accelerated, and then static friction comes into play.

Doesn't Kinetic Friction come into play then?
 
andyrk said:
Doesn't Kinetic Friction come into play then?

Kinetic friction comes into play during slipping. Pure rolling excludes slipping.

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