Domain of f(x,y) = x^y: All Real Pairs Except (0,0)

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Homework Statement


What is the domain of f(x,y)=x^y




The Attempt at a Solution


I thought it would be all real pairs except (0,0)
but it is x>0 and y all real numbers?
 
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If ##z=x^y##, then ##ln(z)=yln(x)##

Do you see why x cannot be less than zero?
 
JuanSolo said:

Homework Statement


What is the domain of f(x,y)=x^y




The Attempt at a Solution


I thought it would be all real pairs except (0,0)
but it is x>0 and y all real numbers?

How do you define (-1)^(1/2) or even worse (-1)^sqrt(2)?
 
Vorde said:
If ##z=x^y##, then ##ln(z)=yln(x)##

Do you see why x cannot be less than zero?


Look at this. Now where is ln(x) defined? Is it discontinuous anywhere? Are there any points where the function isn't defined...
 
Sorry, I don't think I fully understand
Would it not be defined when y is something like 2 or whatever, even if x is negative?
 
JuanSolo said:
Sorry, I don't think I fully understand
Would it not be defined when y is something like 2 or whatever, even if x is negative?
How about when x < 0, if y = 1/2 or y = √(2). What then?
 
see this If z=x^y, then ln(z)=yln(x) , x cannot be less than zero since x is not defined if it is less than 0 . if you don't believe, you can press your calculator to see whether it has a result when you put in x a value which is less than 0.
 
but as long as x>0 , y can be defined in any value in R.
given x>0,
IF y>0 , f(x,y)=x^y .
IF y<0 , f(x,y)=x^(-y) = 1/(x^y)
IF y=0 , f(x,y)=1.
BUT when x<0 , the function is not defined , meaning , you can't get any answer, the function is discontinuous in x<0.
the domain of x is (0,∞) ,while y is (-∞,∞)
 
JuanSolo said:
Sorry, I don't think I fully understand
Would it not be defined when y is something like 2 or whatever, even if x is negative?
It depends on your definition of exponentiation. If you were to restrict y to the integers, then yes, you could consistently define xy for negative values of x. On the other hand, for real numbers x and y, xy is often defined by xy=ey log x, which isn't defined if x<0.
 
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I see
This is the first time I'm hearing of such a definition, I'll have to learn more about it
But thank you, I think I understand now
 
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loy said:
but as long as x>0 , y can be defined in any value in R.
given x>0,
IF y>0 , f(x,y)=x^y .
IF y<0 , f(x,y)=x^(-y) = 1/(x^y)
IF y=0 , f(x,y)=1.
BUT when x<0 , the function is not defined , meaning , you can't get any answer, the function is discontinuous in x<0.
the domain of x is (0,∞) ,while y is (-∞,∞)
Your line,
IF y<0 , f(x,y)=x^(-y) = 1/(x^y)​
is incorrect.

You can say
\displaystyle \text{If }\ y&lt;0\,,\ \text{ then }f(x,y)=x^{-|y|} = \frac{1}{x^{|y|}}\ .​
 
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