Double Dice Probability: Event A and B in Sample Space | Solved

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In a probability experiment involving rolling a fair die twice, the outcomes depend on whether the first roll is odd or even. The sample space includes various combinations of outcomes, with specific subsets defined for events A (first recorded outcome is even) and B (second outcome is even). The probabilities calculated show P(A) as 1/2 and P(B) as 3/4, leading to a conditional probability P(A|B) of 2/3 when considering the second outcome being even. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding conditional probability in this context. The calculations and definitions of the sample space and events are crucial for solving the problem accurately.
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Homework Statement



In a probability experiment, a fair die is rolled twice.
• If the first roll is odd, the outcomes are recorded as they appear.
• If the first roll is even, the recorded outcome for the second die is doubled. For example, if the first die was 2 and the second 4, the recorded outcome would be (2,8).

Let A be the event that the first recorded outcome is even and B be the event that the second is even.

(a) Write down the sample space S for this experiment.
(b) Express A, B and A∩B as subsets of S.
(c) Find P(A) and P(B).
(d) Given that the second recorded outcome is even, what is the probability that the first roll was also even?

The Attempt at a Solution


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I am not sure if the the numbers that I have used below are correct any help is much appreciated

a)
s={(2,4),(2,8),(2,12),(4,4),(4,8),(4,12),(6,4),(6,8),(6,12)}

b)

A={2,4,6}
B={4,8,12}
A∩B = {4}

c)

P(A)=1/2
P(B)=1/2

d)

P=1/4
 
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Mark53 said:
s={(2,4),(2,8),(2,12),(4,4),(4,8),(4,12),(6,4),(6,8),(6,12)}
This set is far from complete. What happened to all of the cases where either the first or second die gave 1, 3, or 5?
Mark53 said:
A={2,4,6}
B={4,8,12}
A∩B = {4}
These are not subsets of your S.
 
Orodruin said:
This set is far from complete. What happened to all of the cases where either the first or second die gave 1, 3, or 5?

These are not subsets of your S.

S={(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12),(1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(1,4),(1,5),(1,6),(3,1),(3,2),(3,3),(3,4),(3,5)(3,6),(5,1),(5,2),(5,3)(5,4),(5,5),(5,6)}

A={(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12)}

B={(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12),(1,2),(1,4),(1,6),(3,2),(3,4),(3,6),(5,2),(5,4),(5,6)}

A∩B = {(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12)}

P(A)=1/2
P(B)=3/4

d)
P=1/2

Would this be correct now
 
Mark53 said:
S={(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12),(1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(1,4),(1,5),(1,6),(3,1),(3,2),(3,3),(3,4),(3,5)(3,6),(5,1),(5,2),(5,3)(5,4),(5,5),(5,6)}

A={(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12)}

B={(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12),(1,2),(1,4),(1,6),(3,2),(3,4),(3,6),(5,2),(5,4),(5,6)}

A∩B = {(2,2),(2,4),(2,6),(2,8),(2,10),(2,12),(4,2)(4,4),(4,6),(4,8),(4,10),(4,12),(6,2),(6,4),(6,6),(6,8),(6,10),(6,12)}

P(A)=1/2
P(B)=3/4

d)
P=1/2

Would this be correct now

a) - c) are correct. How did you calculate d)?
 
PeroK said:
a) - c) are correct. How did you calculate d)?
I used A∩B how should I be calculating it?
 
Mark53 said:
I used A∩B how should I be calculating it?

##P(A \cap B)## is the probability that both are even. The probability that the first is even given that you know the second is even is something else. Can you see that?
 
PeroK said:
##P(A \cap B)## is the probability that both are even. The probability that the first is even given that you know the second is even is something else. Can you see that?
Does that mean that it is 1/4 I am still unsure
 
PeroK said:
You're not going to learn just by guessing a number. Have you heard the term "conditional probability" or seen the term ##P(A|B)##?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_probability
I forgot about that so that means that

##P(A|B)##=(1/2)/(3/4) = 2/3
 
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Mark53 said:
I forgot about that so that means that

##P(A|B)##=(1/2)/(3/4) = 2/3

Yes.
 
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