Double Integral evaluation help

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The problem involves evaluating the double integral \(\int \int_{R} \ln(xy) dA\) over a specified rectangular region \(R\) defined by the bounds \(x=e\), \(x=e^2\), \(y=1\), and \(y=e\). The subject area pertains to calculus, specifically double integrals and integration techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the process of integrating with respect to \(x\) and \(y\), questioning whether \(\ln y\) can be treated as a constant during integration by parts. There are inquiries about the implications of using \(u\) substitution and the proper order of integration.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various attempts to clarify the integration process, with some participants providing guidance on treating constants and the order of integration. There is an ongoing exploration of assumptions regarding integration techniques, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the integration steps and the treatment of constants, indicating a need for further clarification on the setup and execution of the double integral.

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Homework Statement



Evaluate the double integral \int \int_{R} ln(xy) dA where R is the rectangle bounded by x=e, x=e^2,y=1,y=e.

Homework Equations


ln (xy) = ln x + ln y

The Attempt at a Solution



I was just wondering, do I need to do anything other than take the integral with respect to x, plug in the bounds, and then take the integral with respect to y, and plug in the bounds? I know to use integration by parts for ln x, and I know to break the ln xy up, but is it fine just to treat the ln y as a constant even if I do integration by parts? That would make it become x ln y. Thanks.
 
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wilcofan3 said:

Homework Statement



Evaluate the double integral \int \int_{R} ln(xy) dA where R is the rectangle bounded by x=e, x=e^2,y=1,y=e.

Homework Equations


ln (xy) = ln x + ln y

The Attempt at a Solution



I was just wondering, do I need to do anything other than take the integral with respect to x, plug in the bounds, and then take the integral with respect to y, and plug in the bounds? I know to use integration by parts for ln x, and I know to break the ln xy up, but is it fine just to treat the ln y as a constant even if I do integration by parts? That would make it become x ln y. Thanks.
If you're integrating with respect to x, then yes, ln y can be treated as a constant.

But what is "it" that would become x ln y?
 
Mark44 said:
If you're integrating with respect to x, then yes, ln y can be treated as a constant.

But what is "it" that would become x ln y?

I was referring to the constant when I integrate with respect to x. Sorry, I was a little vague.

Thank you, though, I just was a little unsure on whether having a "u" substitution would change things up, but I should just treat it as a constant.

I ended up with the result 2e^3 - 2e^2.
 
wilcofan3 said:

Homework Statement



Evaluate the double integral \int \int_{R} ln(xy) dA where R is the rectangle bounded by x=e, x=e^2,y=1,y=e.

Homework Equations


ln (xy) = ln x + ln y

The Attempt at a Solution



I was just wondering, do I need to do anything other than take the integral with respect to x, plug in the bounds, and then take the integral with respect to y, and plug in the bounds? I know to use integration by parts for ln x, and I know to break the ln xy up, but is it fine just to treat the ln y as a constant even if I do integration by parts? That would make it become x ln y. Thanks.

Just do the integral with respect to why then x, so it will be written dy dx,

for dy the bounds will just be from 1 to e,

then for dx it will go from e to e^2
 
\int_{x=a}^b \int_{y= c}^d f(x)+ g(y) dy dx= \left(\int_{x= a}^b f(x)dx\right)\left(\int_{y= c}^d dy\right)+ \left(\int_{x=a}^b dx\right)\left(\int_{y= c}^d g(y)dy\right)
= (d-c)\int_{x=a}^b f(x)dx+ (b-a)\int_{y= c}^d g(y)dy
 

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