Double Integrals - Volume of a Cylinder

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The problem involves calculating the volume of a cylinder with specific geometric modifications, including a cut at an angle. The cylinder has a diameter of 2 inches and a height of 10 inches, with one end cut perpendicular and the other at a 40-degree angle.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to divide the cylinder into two regions and set up a double integral to find the volume, but encounters a negative result, prompting a request for help in identifying the error.
  • Some participants suggest calculating the volume of the entire cylinder and then subtracting the volume of the cut-off section, proposing a coordinate system for integration.
  • Questions arise regarding the integration limits and the potential for complex numbers in the final answer, as well as confusion about the explanation provided.
  • There is mention of a similar problem with a different angle, highlighting the need for clarity on how the angle affects the setup.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods of calculating the volume and questioning the assumptions made in the original setup. Some guidance has been offered regarding the overall volume of the cylinder and the integration process, but there is no clear consensus on the correct approach yet.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem's specific dimensions and angles, and there is uncertainty about the implications of these factors on the integration setup.

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Homework Statement



A cylinder has a diameter of 2 inches. One end is cut perpendicular to the side of the cylinder and the other side is cut at an angle of 40 degrees to the side. The length at the longest point is 10 inches. Find the volume of the sample.

I believe this is what it would look like:
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The Attempt at a Solution



I began by dividing it into two regions, D1 and D2.

D1 should have a height of 10 - \frac{2}{tan(40°)}
To find the volume of D1, I did
\int^{2}_{0}\int^{{10}_{\frac{2}{tan(40°)}}} (x^2-y^2-1) dy dx
I did this because I think x should go from 0 to 2, the diameter, and y should go from \frac{2}{tan(40°)} to 10, the bottom of the region to the top.

When I attempted this, I got a negative answer so it cannot be right. Can anyone help me find the fault in my logic here?
 
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I presume that you know that the volume of the entire cylider is \pi r^2h= \pi(1)(10)= 10\pi.

So all you really need to do is subtract off the volume of the section cut off. If you set up a coordinate system so that (0, 0, 0) is in the center of the end of the cylinder that is cut off, with the axis of the cylinder extending up the z- axis, the surface of the cylinder is given by x^2+ y^2= 1. Taking the line of cut parallel to the x-axis, at 45 degrees, so that z= x, we will have x^2+ y^2+ z^2= 2x^2+ y^2= 1. It will cross the xz-plane at z= 2 so you will want to integrate, with respect to z, from 0 to 2 with, at each z, integrating, with respect to y from -\sqrt{1- 2x^2} to \sqrt{1- 2x^2}.
 
HallsofIvy said:
I presume that you know that the volume of the entire cylider is \pi r^2h= \pi(1)(10)= 10\pi.

So all you really need to do is subtract off the volume of the section cut off. If you set up a coordinate system so that (0, 0, 0) is in the center of the end of the cylinder that is cut off, with the axis of the cylinder extending up the z- axis, the surface of the cylinder is given by x^2+ y^2= 1. Taking the line of cut parallel to the x-axis, at 45 degrees, so that z= x, we will have x^2+ y^2+ z^2= 2x^2+ y^2= 1. It will cross the xz-plane at z= 2 so you will want to integrate, with respect to z, from 0 to 2 with, at each z, integrating, with respect to y from -\sqrt{1- 2x^2} to \sqrt{1- 2x^2}.

I'm not quite sure I understand your explanation. Also, if I integrate using those values, won't I be left with x's in my final answer? It looks as if I'll end up with complex numbers as well.
 
Illania said:
I'm not quite sure I understand your explanation. Also, if I integrate using those values, won't I be left with x's in my final answer? It looks as if I'll end up with complex numbers as well.

HallsOfIvy worked a slightly different problem, in which the cutting plane makes an angle of 45°, not 40° as in your problem. The only thing different would be the equation of the plane.
 

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