Dulong Petit derivation.How do we get this formula?E=kT

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In summary, we use the equation E=$k_B$T and the probability distribution as f(E)=1 to calculate the internal energy of a system. This internal energy can also be expressed as u=3N$k_B$T and can be used to calculate the specific heat capacity, C_v=∂u/∂T=3NkT, for a system with 3 modes per atom. This equation comes from the fact that an atom in a solid has both kinetic and potential energy, while in a gas it only has kinetic energy. The number of nearest neighbors does not necessarily determine the specific heat capacity.
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Dulong Petit use energy,E=$k_B$T and the probability distribution as f(E)=1.
Internal energy,u=3N$k_B$T
$$C_v=∂u/∂T=3NkT$$
Three there because there is 3 modes in each atom.
Then my question is why do we use E=kT?
I understand 1 atom has 3 degree of freedom,and 1 freedom has kT/2.
A molecule has 5 degree of freedom at room temperature. Then why E=kT? Comes from?
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kT/2 holds for a translational degree of freedom. For a vibration, you have rather kT. As an atom in a solid will vibrate in the cage formed by its neighbours, we get 3kT.
 
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DrDu said:
kT/2 holds for a translational degree of freedom. For a vibration, you have rather kT. As an atom in a solid will vibrate in the cage formed by its neighbours, we get 3kT.

Is that because in an atom in a solid, there are 6 neighbors so, (6/2)${k_B}$ T
 
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Is that because in an atom in a solid, there are 6 neighbors so, (6/2)${k_B}$ T

No, this is not true in general and this is not the reason for the 3 in the formula even when it is true (simple cubic crystals). In most metals there are 8 or 12 nearest neighbors, for example.

An atom in a crystal has both kinetic and potential energy. In a gas it has only kinetic.
This is the reason for the different formulas.
 
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for your question about the Dulong Petit derivation. The formula E=kT is derived from statistical mechanics, specifically the Boltzmann distribution. This distribution describes the probability of a particle having a certain amount of energy at a certain temperature. In the case of Dulong Petit, we are looking at a system of particles (atoms or molecules) at a certain temperature. The probability distribution for this system is f(E)=1, which means that all energy levels are equally likely. This leads to the formula for internal energy, u=3N$k_B$T, where N is the number of particles and $k_B$ is the Boltzmann constant. This formula takes into account the 3 degrees of freedom for each atom in the system, which is why we use E=kT.

As for your question about why a molecule has 5 degrees of freedom at room temperature, this is because molecules can also rotate and vibrate in addition to their translational motion. However, at room temperature, these additional degrees of freedom are not fully excited and contribute less to the internal energy compared to the translational motion. This is why we still use E=kT, as it takes into account the average energy of all degrees of freedom, including the additional ones for molecules. I hope this helps clarify the derivation of the Dulong Petit formula for you.
 

What is the Dulong Petit formula?

The Dulong Petit formula is a thermodynamic equation that relates the molar heat capacity of an element to its atomic mass. It states that the molar heat capacity of a solid element at constant volume is approximately equal to 3 times the gas constant (R) multiplied by the temperature (T) in Kelvin.

Who derived the Dulong Petit formula?

The Dulong Petit formula was derived by French scientists Pierre Louis Dulong and Alexis Thérèse Petit in the early 19th century. They conducted experiments on various elements and observed that the molar heat capacity was approximately the same for all solid elements at high temperatures.

What is the significance of the Dulong Petit formula?

The Dulong Petit formula is significant because it provides a simple and accurate way to estimate the molar heat capacity of solid elements at high temperatures. This information is important for understanding the thermodynamic properties of materials and for designing industrial processes.

How do we get the Dulong Petit formula?

The Dulong Petit formula is derived using the principles of classical thermodynamics, specifically the law of equipartition of energy. This law states that at high temperatures, each atom in a solid element has an average kinetic energy of 3/2 RT, where R is the gas constant and T is the temperature in Kelvin. By multiplying this energy by the Avogadro constant and dividing by the total mass of the element, we can obtain the molar heat capacity, which is approximately equal to 3R.

What is the relation between the Dulong Petit formula and the equation E=kT?

The Dulong Petit formula and the equation E=kT are related because they both involve the gas constant (R) and the temperature (T). However, the Dulong Petit formula specifically relates to the molar heat capacity of solid elements, while the equation E=kT is a more general expression of the average kinetic energy of particles in a system at a given temperature. The constant k in this equation is the Boltzmann constant, which is related to the gas constant by Avogadro's number. Therefore, the Dulong Petit formula can be seen as a more specific case of the general equation E=kT.

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