Dynamic system - initial displacement

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The discussion centers on understanding the role of initial displacement in dynamic systems, particularly in the context of a spring-damper model. The initial displacement is included in the damper term but not in the spring term, which is expressed as kx instead of k(x-x0). This is because the system's initial conditions are set to zero, simplifying the analysis. The conversation also touches on the implications of the system being massless, leading to a first-order system where oscillations are not possible. The importance of dimensional consistency in equations involving impulses is also highlighted.
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My problem is the initial displacement.

i am told the first step is this

kx + c(dx/dt) = unit impulse

laplace transform

kX + c(sX-x0)=1

from that i can see the initial displacement is included in the damper but why isn't it included in the spring term e.g i would expect it to be k(X-x0)

can anybody explain this?

Thanks
 

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First, you have to make an assumption as to whether the system is over - or - underdamped. Let's assume underdamping since that's more fun ...

Second, you should understand what is meant by "an impulse δ". Actually, it's δ(t), signifying that an impulse is applied at t = 0. More importantly, the dimension of δ(t) is T-1 so your F = ma equation will be dimensionally incorrect if you don't modify the impulse.

Your actual impulse is bδ(t) where b = 1 Newton-second if you're using the SI system. I suggest retaining the "b" in your work so you can check dimensional consistency term-by-term.

OK, so now you write your F = ma equation, transform to the frequency (Laplace) domain, and solve for X(s) and then x(t).

I hope you have a Laplace table that includes the underdamped second-order case. If not you'll have to use partial-fraction expansion with complex roots. Yuk!

OR, you can just assume overdamped in which case the poles are both real and you can use partial fraction expansion easily.
 
Thank you for your reply Rudeman, but i am still unsure specifically about including the initial displacement in the equation

would the spring term include the initial displacement e.g k(x-x0)

or would it just be kx

with an explanation of why if possible,

Thanks
 
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MMCS said:
Thank you for your reply Rudeman, but i am still unsure specifically about including the initial displacement in the equation

would the spring term include the initial displacement e.g k(x-x0)

or would it just be kx

with an explanation of why if possible,

Thanks

Let x = 0 be the position of the bar before the impulse is applied. So your initial conditions are x(0) = x'(0) = 0.

EDIT: the fact that the bar is massless makes this a first-order system, making things a whole lot easier. So your equation is ƩF = ma = 0. This makes the math very easy. Sorry that didn't dawn on me earlier. So also ignore my bit about having to assume underdamping or overdamping. There are no oscillations possible with m = 0.
 
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