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The discussion revolves around applying Newton's Second Law to determine the maximum upward acceleration of an elevator supported by a cable, given its mass and the cable's maximum strength. The problem involves concepts from dynamics and force analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculations related to the forces acting on the elevator, including tension and gravitational force. There are questions about the correctness of the original poster's calculations and the reasoning behind differing opinions from classmates.

Discussion Status

Several participants affirm the original poster's calculations, indicating that they appear correct. There is an ongoing exploration of the reasoning behind classmates' disagreements, with some participants suggesting that the nature of the calculations may lead to confusion due to the close values involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential for error magnification in calculations that involve subtracting closely valued numbers. There is also mention of the original poster's intention to ask further questions for exam preparation.

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Homework Statement



*Note: I'm really stuck in this part of Newton's 2nd Law so I may be asking a few more questions after this to practice for our upcoming examinations.

A cable supporting a 2125kg elevator has a maximum strength of 21750N. What maximum upward acceleration can it give without breaking?

Homework Equations



1. Forcevertical= Forcetension + Forcegravity
2. Force= (mass)(acceleration)

The Attempt at a Solution


What I did is:
Forcevertical=21750N + [(-9.8m/s2)(2125kg)]
Forcevertical=925N

Then after solving the first part, i used the 2nd equation then did this:
925N = (2125N)(a)
a = 0.435 m/s2

I'm not quite sure if I'm right in this problem.

Thank you in advance.
 
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Method looks right. I've misplaced my sliderule at the moment, so haven't checked your multiplication answer. :)
 
The calculations are correct. You did nothing wrong that I ca tell.
 
thank you for checking it! but i don't know why my classmates keep on proving me wrong though
 
Well the question is basically asking how fast you can move the elevator up with respect to the mass of the elevator. So the answer makes sense. If they're arguing with it I'm curious as to what they're doing.
 
NascentOxygen said:
Method looks right. I've misplaced my sliderule at the moment, so haven't checked your multiplication answer. :)
Thank you! I thought i did it wrong but it was right all along. :)
 
Well, even I seem to get this answer only.
Your answer seems right to me.
 
I think you are right ,,
I'm wondering about what your friend said ,,,
 
yandereni said:
thank you for checking it! but i don't know why my classmates keep on proving me wrong though
You don't say what answer others get, so it's hard to tell. An important thing to notice is that the calculation involves taking the difference of two numbers that are close together. This creates the risk of error magnification. E.g. if you take g as 10m/s2 you get only half the answer.
 

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