Dynamics of a string coupled pendulum

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The discussion focuses on understanding the dynamics of a string coupled pendulum, particularly how to create a free body diagram and analyze the motion resulting from simple harmonic motion (SHM) of the top spring. The complexity arises from the multiple forces involved, including tensions in both the long suspending string and the horizontal string. The problem is acknowledged as complicated due to the numerous interacting variables and degrees of freedom, with a total of nine variables affecting the system's dynamics. A qualitative analysis is sought to clarify the forces at play, emphasizing the need to consider the constraints imposed by the pendulum's setup. The conversation suggests that the problem can be approached using Lagrangian dynamics, which has been solved in closed form for small angular displacements.
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My problem/task is to explain in elementary terms the dynamics of a string coupled pendulum, the same as in this diagram:
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Is it simple to make a free body diagram for the pendulums? Is it possible to understand the motion as being caused by SHM oscillation of the top horizontal spring from which the weighted pendulum are suspended?

Thanks in advance for any help with this problem.
 

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Is this the full statement of the problem? E.g. do we have to consider arbitrary directions of oscillation of the pendula? In arbitrary phases?
 
haruspex said:
Is this the full statement of the problem? E.g. do we have to consider arbitrary directions of oscillation of the pendula? In arbitrary phases?

Assume that initially one of the pendula is displaced at an angle perpendicular to the plane defined by the fixed posts indicated in the diagram, and that the other pendula is initially at equilibrium.

It is a self-imposed problem that I have set myself, to understand the dynamics of this system. Unlike a spring coupled pendulum, the forces involved are not so obvious and I am not sure where to start.
 
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This problem can be solved by the technique of Lagrangian dynamics. The solution has a closed form for small angular displacements. It would be fun and easy to set up an experiment to observe the oscillatory transfer of angular momentum from one pendulum to the other.
 
Hi, thanks for the reply. I am looking more for some qualitative analysis. Exactly forces are involved? The tension in the long suspending string, as in the situation for SHM. In addition the tension from the horizontal string must come into account, I guess? Just a bit lost as to how to put all of this together.
 
physics_cosmos said:
Hi, thanks for the reply. I am looking more for some qualitative analysis. Exactly forces are involved? The tension in the long suspending string, as in the situation for SHM. In addition the tension from the horizontal string must come into account, I guess? Just a bit lost as to how to put all of this together.
You have chosen a very complicated problem.
There are five different tensions.
The two junctions between the strings lie on spheres centred at the tops of the posts, but the distance between them adds a constraint, making three degrees of freedom.
At any instant, the three strings at a junction lie in a plane (why?).
The positions of the bobs relative to the junctions have one more degree of freedom each, and their velocities add two more each.
That's nine interacting variables.
 
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