E & B Fields from Moving Charges: The Magnetic Monopole Mystery

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When observing a negative line charge on a rod, a stationary observer perceives an electric (E) field, while a moving observer detects a magnetic (B) field. The discussion highlights that B fields can be seen as manifestations of E fields depending on the observer's frame of reference. The invariance of the relationship between E and B fields is emphasized, indicating that a pure E field cannot transform into a pure B field through frame changes. The conversation also touches on the existence of magnetic monopoles, suggesting that if they were real, they would exhibit distinct electromagnetic properties. The overall inquiry revolves around the implications of moving charges on the understanding of magnetic monopoles.
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Lets say I have a negative line charge on a long thin rod, if I am at rest with respect to that rod I will see an E field. But If I am moving with respect to that rod I will see a B field. So why are people looking for magnetic monopoles, If B fields are E fields in disguise, wouldn't the electrons need to show magnetic monopoles if they existed?
 
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hi cragar! :smile:
cragar said:
Lets say I have a negative line charge on a long thin rod, if I am at rest with respect to that rod I will see an E field. But If I am moving with respect to that rod I will see a B field.

yes, but it's only a tiny-weeny B field …

it's still mostly an E field :wink:

E2/c2 - B2 is invariant (the same in all frames), so since it's positive for the stationary rod, it's always positive

(if the speed is tanhu, then |E| = cE0coshu and |B| = E0sinhu)

similary, a stationary magnetic monople (if it exists) will have E = 0, and so E2/c2 - B2 will be negative, in that and any other frame …

there's no frame transformation that will turn pure E into pure B :smile:
 
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I though it was E(dot)B that was invariant . Or is your way also equivalent. We can have frames where there is pure B then some E and B, but that probably doesn't help my case.
 
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Topic about reference frames, center of rotation, postion of origin etc Comoving ref. frame is frame that is attached to moving object, does that mean, in that frame translation and rotation of object is zero, because origin and axes(x,y,z) are fixed to object? Is it same if you place origin of frame at object center of mass or at object tail? What type of comoving frame exist? What is lab frame? If we talk about center of rotation do we always need to specified from what frame we observe?

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