How is effective distance calculated for charges in a dielectric medium?

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Effective distance between charges in a dielectric medium is calculated by considering the dielectric constant (k) and the actual distance (d) between the charges. The formula derived shows that the effective distance in vacuum, denoted as deff, relates to the thickness of the dielectric slab (t) by the equation deff = t√k. When charges are in a combination of empty space and dielectric material, the total effective distance is the sum of the distances through each medium, adjusted by their respective dielectric constants. This approach allows for the calculation of forces between charges in different media. Understanding this technique is essential for solving similar problems in electrostatics.
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I now know what is effective distance
Suppose you have two charges embedded in a dielectric medium with constant k (so instead of empty space there's a "sea" of dielectric media around them). They are separated by a distance d in the medium, so that Coulomb's law would be:
##F##=##\frac{1}{k 4 \pi ε_o}####\frac{q_1 q_2}{d^2}##

Now we want to know what the effective distance would be in empty space to produce the same force. So:

##\frac{1}{k~4 \pi ε_o}## ##\frac{q_1 q_2}{d^2}## = ##\frac{1}{4 \pi ε_o} \frac{q_1 q_2}{d_{eff}^2}##

which reduces to

##k~d^2## = ##d_{eff}^2##

If we look at the image I have given link of how the net distance between the charges has been calculated there?
 
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Let's assume the charges q1 and q2 are in free space and the slab inserted has a dielectric constant k. If the slab weren't there, the net distance between the charges would be Dnet=r. If ,instead of free space, the charges were in this material with dielectric constant k and thickness t, the effective distance between them in vacuum would be t√k. But here, both free space and that material are present. So, net distance between the charges(in vacuum)=
actual distance in vacuum+equivalent of the thickness of the slab in vacuum.
Hence,Dnet=(r-t)+t√k
where r-t is the actual distance in vacuum and t√k is the equivalent of the slab's thickness in vacuum.
This is as per my understanding.
 
cnh1995 said:
If ,instead of free space, the charges were in this material with dielectric constant k and thickness t
You mean
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I don't think he means the second situation.
It is the same as in your problem. Some of the space between the two charges is empty, some is filled with dielectric.
The distance through the empty space is (r-t), the distance through dielectric is t. These are geometric distances.
In order to find effective distances you multiply each by the square of the dielectric constants: 1 for the empty part and √k for the dielectric part.
Then you just add them to get total effective distance.
 
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nasu said:
In order to find effective distances you multiply each by the square of the dielectric constants
Why?Is this a technique to solve such questions?
 
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Here, let the force between the charges be F. To have the same force F in vacuum, the distance between the charges must be t√k in vacuum. Hence, t√k is the equivalent of slab's thickness in vacuum. So, in general, if there are some more media in between the charges, equivalent of their thickness in vacuum should be added to the 'actual'(or you can say 'effective', since k=1) distance in vacuum.
gracy said:
Is this a technique to solve such questions?
I think so. You can try a number of problems and verify.
 
nasu said:
In order to find effective distances you multiply each by the square of the dielectric constants:
Did you mean square root of the dielectric constants
 
Yes, square root. Sorry. :smile:
 
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