Arkani-Hamed, Dubovsky, Nicolis, Trincherini, and Villadoro argue in section 2.2 of A Measure of de Sitter Entropy and Eternal Inflation that the effective field theory description of black hole evaporation fails after a time t(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); _{ev}, even though the curvatures are small.

Almheiri, Marolf, Polchinski, and Sully argue for firewalls after Page time in Black Holes: Complementarity or Firewalls?.

Is t_{ev}the same as Page time, and is the AMPS Firewall argument related to ADTV's argument for the breakdown of effective field theory?

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# Effective field theory, black hole evaporation, firewalls

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