Eigenval/vect question, double check my answers, dont make sense

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The discussion revolves around finding the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of a given 3x3 matrix A. Participants are exploring the calculations involved in determining these eigenvalues and eigenvectors, particularly focusing on the verification of their results through matrix multiplication.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to find eigenvalues and eigenvectors, reporting results for λ = 1, -1, and 5, but expresses confusion regarding the correctness of their eigenvectors based on matrix multiplication checks.
  • Some participants question the method of multiplication used by the original poster, suggesting a need for clarification on the process of multiplying matrices and vectors.
  • Others provide corrections to the eigenvector for λ = -1 and discuss the expected outcomes of the matrix multiplication.

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Participants are actively engaging in correcting and clarifying the eigenvector calculations. There is a recognition of mistakes in the multiplication process, and some guidance has been offered regarding the correct method to verify eigenvectors. The discussion is ongoing, with multiple interpretations and corrections being explored.

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There appears to be confusion regarding the procedure for matrix multiplication, which has led to incorrect results in the verification of eigenvectors. The original poster acknowledges a misunderstanding of the multiplication process, indicating a learning moment in the discussion.

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eigenval/vect question, double check my answers, don't make sense....

Homework Statement


find eigenvalues and eigenvectors of matrix A =
102
012
223


Homework Equations


A -λI etc blah


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm getting λ = 1, -1, 5.

For λ = 1, v = (-1,1,0)t (t being a real integer constant), and double checking says it's right.

For λ = -1, I'm getting v = (1,1,1)t but if i double check by multiplying it with the matrix A I'm not getting something in the form of v (i'm getting like.. 3,3,7, which doesn't make sense to me).

For λ = 5, i got v = (1,1,2)t but again double checking doesn't give a vector in this form! (multiplying this v by A gives me 3,3,14) :angry:

what am i doing wrong??
 
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(1,1,1) is wrong, it is (-1,-1,1).
You do something wrong with matrix multiplication. How do you do it? The third eigenvector is correct.

ehild
 


ok yeah my bad, the evect for lambda = -1 is (-1,-1,1) (i rushed).

but multiplying A with (-1,-1,1) gives (-3,-3,7), which still doesn't make sense >:/
 


i get (1,1,-1) as you would expect
 


How do you do the multiplication?

Multiply (-1,-1,1) with the
first column of the original matrix: -1+0+2=1;
with the second column: 0-1+2=1;
with the third column: -2-2+3=-1.
The result is (1,1,-1) =-1(-1,-1,1) as it has to be.

ehild
 


ok i was multiplying column of matrix by each row of the vector, when i should be multiplying the rows of the matrix by the vector and adding terms.

my bad.
 


It is the same, you can multiply each element of a row of the matrix with the corresponding element of the vector, and ADD them - so is it OK now?

ehild
 


A times (-1,-1,1) i (incorrectly) did:

1x-1 + 0x-1 + 2x-1
0x-1 + 1x-1 + 2x-1
2x 1 + 2x 1 + 3x 1

giving

-1-2
-1-2
2+2+3

resulting in (-3,-3,7)

which is incorrect.

i know how to do it now, thanks ehild and lanedance.
shouldve remembered this from years ago...
 

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