Elastic Collision in Two Reference Frames

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The discussion focuses on calculating the maximum heights reached by two skateboarders after an elastic collision on a ramp. The skateboarders, with masses of 48 kg and 55 kg, start from a height of 4.70 m, and their pre-collision velocities and momenta are calculated using conservation of energy and momentum principles. The approach involves determining the change in momentum during the collision and using the reduced mass to find the post-collision velocities. The final heights are then calculated using the formula h = v^2/(2g). The calculations emphasize the importance of understanding both the laboratory and center of momentum frames for accurate results.
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1. Two skateboarders start from rest on opposite sides of a ramp like the one in the image, roll down and collide elastically on the level part of the ramp. The masses of the skateboarders are m1 = 48 kg and m2 = 55 kg and they both start from the height h = 4.70m. Ignoring any friction, calculate the maximum heights that each skateboarder reaches after the collision
(a) by performing the collision calculation in the laboratory frame
(b) by performing the collision calculation in the centre of momentum frame
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Homework Equations


Conservation of energy/momentum
1/2mv2 = mgh
mvi = mvf

The Attempt at a Solution


I worked out the velocity and momentum of each skater at the instant before they collide, thinking that I could then use normal conservation of momentum and energy to work out the same values for afterward, but as I reached this point I realized that I do not know how to proceed because I have no final values to substitute into the post-collision equation, so do not know how to proceed from here. In the lab frame I have calculated the pre-collision momentum of skater 1 to be 460.8kgm/s, and skater 2 to be 528kgm/s
 

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