Elastic collision of hockey puck

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem involving an elastic collision between two hockey pucks of equal mass. Puck A, traveling at 15.2 m/s, strikes puck B at a 30-degree angle, and the goal is to determine puck A's final speed after the collision. The conservation of momentum and kinetic energy equations are applied, but the original poster struggles with the calculations. Key insights include using the directional components of momentum and recognizing that the conservation of energy can help determine the angle between the two pucks post-collision. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying these principles to find the final velocities.
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Homework Statement



Hockey puck B rests on a smooth ice surface and is struck by a second puck A, which has the same mass. Puck A is initially traveling at 15.2 m/s and is deflected 30.0^\circ from its initial direction. The pucks are made of superball-like material, so you may assume that the collision is perfectly elastic.

Find the final speed of the puck A after the collision

Homework Equations



conservation of momentum for one object at rest (1)
mvai = mvaf + mvbf

conservation of kinetic energy (2)
1/2mvai = 1/2mvaf + 1/2mvbf

The Attempt at a Solution



I have tried this about 10 times and cannot get it right :(

i solved equation 1 for the x and y components of the velocity final for puck b

vbxf = vaxi - vaxf

vbyf = -vayf

so

vbf = sqrt [(vaxi - vaxf)2 + (-vayf)2]

vbf = sqrt [vaxi2 - 2vaxf + vaxf2 + vayf2]

then i plugged this into 1/2mvai = 1/2mvaf + 1/2mvbf for v_bf

i would show all my steps of reducing but it would take forever.

i end up getting vfa = cos(30) = .866 but this is wrong

am i right up to this point of what i have done?

any help would be great. Thank you
 
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The directional components of momentum before and after are the same. So:

mv_{ai} = mv_{af}cos(\alpha) + mv_{bf}cos(\theta) and

mv_{af}sin(\alpha) + mv_{bf}sin(\theta) = 0

Now the trick is to realize that the conservation of energy equation gives you the angle between the two pucks after collision:

v_{ai}^2 = v_{af}^2 + v_{bf}^2

so with that angle you can find \alpha

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