Electric analog of a heat pump

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the concept of creating an electric analog of a heat pump that could concentrate the potential energy of electrons, exploring whether this is feasible and how it might be achieved. The scope includes theoretical considerations and practical implications.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the possibility of extracting potential energy from electrons in a manner analogous to heat extraction from gas, asserting it is impossible.
  • Another participant presents a hypothetical scenario involving two collectors at different heights, suggesting that a significant voltage difference could be harnessed, and asks about the potential energy that could be extracted in this setup.
  • A participant proposes that the concept may resemble the function of a capacitor, indicating a possible analogy.
  • One participant asserts that not only is it possible to create such an analog, but it is also widely used, contradicting the earlier claim of impossibility.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express conflicting views on the feasibility of creating an electric analog of a heat pump, with some asserting it is impossible while others claim it is possible and in use.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of potential energy and its extraction, as well as the specific conditions under which the proposed scenarios might hold true.

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Is it possible to create analog of a heat pump which would be able to concentrate potential energy of electrons in one place, using some work, so there would be gain in energy?
 
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Hi.
Impossible. Potential energy cannot be extracted from electron as heat is extracted from gas.
Regards.
 
1) There is such a statements that if we arrange one collector on the ground and second one mounted vertically over it at a distance of 2000 meters and both are connected by a conducting cable, there is a difference in potential in summer of about 2,000,000 volts and in winter even of 6,000,000 volts and more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_electricity"
How much energy could we harness in this way?
 
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Do you mean like a capacitor?

[PLAIN]http://www.antonine-education.co.uk/New_items/TRA/Sensing_files/image002.gif
 
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Stanley514 said:
Is it possible to create analog of a heat pump which would be able to concentrate potential energy of electrons in one place, using some work, so there would be gain in energy?
Not only possible, but widely used.
 

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