Electric Circuit. Norton Equivalent current

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The discussion centers on calculating the Norton equivalent current in electric circuits, specifically using node voltage equations and source transformations. A participant initially miscalculated the Norton current, believing it to be 12A due to an independent current source. However, the correct approach involves performing a source transformation and accurately summing resistances to determine the Norton current. The Thevenin voltage was also clarified as the open-circuit voltage, which was confirmed to be 36000V.

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Electric Circuit. Norton/Thevelin Equivalents

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I used a node voltage equation to try and get Vth and the I in the short-circuit to get the Rth but it didn't work.

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I used a node voltage equation to get Vth and I in the short-circuit. Got Rth and used in the in Vth^2 / 4 RL (with RL = Rth)

My answer was wrong. Is the method correct ?


Solved this my self
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For me, I find that the Norton equivalent is going to be 12A since the independent current source forces that ampage. But apparently I'm wrong. (I get feedback from a web form when I submit the answer). Any one can tell me what's wrong with my thought process ? Thank you.

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After doing a source transformation and adding up the resistors. You can get the correct the Norton current value.

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I thought that if I did a source transformation getting a 36000V source would solve the problem because there isn't any other voltage source in the circuit. I was wrong. Any hints on this one ?
 
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I thought that if I did a source transformation getting a 36000V source would solve the problem because there isn't any other voltage source in the circuit. I was wrong. Any hints on this one ?
You're right. The Thevenin voltage is the open-circuit voltage, which is 36000 V.
 
Yes it turns out my answer is correct and that they forgot to ask for the answer in kilo ohm.

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Can anyone tell me why the the Vth is equal to the v in the dependent source "3V"

A solution says i = \frac{5-3V}{2000} = \frac{5-3Vth}{2000}
 

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Think about how you usually determine Vth.
 
I'm going to ask my professor about that problem. Thank you though. Could you have a look at the first problem in my first post ?

I'm pretty sure I need to find Rth using a test source but I can't seem to do it right. (A web form tells me my answer is wrong)

What I tried, I added a current source of 5A to node A. And deactivated the 12V source. The next step for me is to find Vx so I can add it up with R2 * 5A and get Vth. In the end I'll get Rth from, Vth/Ith. But I have failed to get a right answer.Edit: got help with solving it. thank you :)
 
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