Electric Current in Special Relativity

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The discussion centers on the behavior of electric current in the context of special relativity, specifically how current and charge density transform between different inertial reference frames. Participants explore theoretical implications and mathematical formulations related to these transformations, as well as the concept of electrical resistance in this framework.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the transformation of current density depends on the orientation of the conductor through which the current flows.
  • Others discuss the representation of current and charge density as a 4-vector, which transforms under boosts and rotations similarly to the displacement 4-vector.
  • A participant notes that if the current-carrying wire has no charge in the lab frame, it acquires charge in the moving frame, leading to an increase in both current and current density by a factor of gamma.
  • There is mention of the electrostatic force experienced by moving charge parallel to a wire in its rest frame, contrasting with the magnetic force experienced in the laboratory frame where the wire is neutral.
  • Concerns are raised about how electrical resistance transforms and whether it maintains the same magnitude across different inertial reference frames.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying viewpoints on the transformation of current and charge density, with no consensus reached on the implications for electrical resistance or the specifics of the transformations involved.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve assumptions about the charge density in different frames and the conditions under which the transformations apply, which remain unresolved.

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Consider an electric circuit at rest in the lab inertial reference frame. The circuit carries a steady electric current I. What is the current in the circuit as observed from a different inertial reference frame with a velocity of v relative to the lab frame?

Thanks in advance for your answers
 
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jimmd said:
Consider an electric circuit at rest in the lab inertial reference frame. The circuit carries a steady electric current I. What is the current in the circuit as observed from a different inertial reference frame with a velocity of v relative to the lab frame?

Thanks in advance for your answers
Special relativity considers the transformation of charge density and current density. Have a look at
W.G.V. Rosser, Classical electromagnetism via relativity Butterworth London 1968 pp165-173
For the OX(O'X') components of the current density J(X) in I and J'(X) you find there
J'(X)=g(V)(J(x)-Vro')
where g(V) stands for the gamma factor and ro' for rhe charge density in I'.
The other two components have the same magnitude in all inertial referfence frames in relative motion.
The transformation for the current depends on the orientation of the conductor through which the current flows.:rolleyes:
 
If you write your current and charge density in a 4-vector:

[tex]j^a = [c\rho, j_x,j_y,j_z][/tex]

then this object transforms as a 4-vector under boosts and rotations (i.e. in exactly the same way as the displacement 4-vector). The form of transformation is given in, for example, this Wikipedia article section.
 
electrical resistance

jimmd said:
Consider an electric circuit at rest in the lab inertial reference frame. The circuit carries a steady electric current I. What is the current in the circuit as observed from a different inertial reference frame with a velocity of v relative to the lab frame?

Thanks in advance for your answers
what about the electrical resistance? how does it transform. has it the same magnitude in all inertial reference frames
 
masudr said:
If you write your current and charge density in a 4-vector:

[tex]j^a = [c\rho, j_x,j_y,j_z][/tex]

then this object transforms as a 4-vector under boosts and rotations (i.e. in exactly the same way as the displacement 4-vector). The form of transformation is given in, for example, this Wikipedia article section.

Yep. If we apply this to the particular problem, we see that we need to know the charge density in the lab frame.

If we assume that the current carrying wire has no charge in the lab frame, and that the direction of the wire and current is the same as the direction of the velocity of the moving observer, we see that in the moving frame the wire acquires a charge, and that both the current and current density are increased by a factor of gamma = 1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2).

Note that if we have a complete circuit, some parts of the wire will acquire a positive charge and others will acquire a negative charge, but the total charge on the wire will remain constant at 0.

Note that this means that moving charge parallel to a wire experiences an electrostatic force in its own rest frame. In the laboratory rest frame, the wire is neutral, so the charge experiences no electric force, but rather a magnetic force.

This is why it is often said that relativity unifies electrostatics and magnetism.
 

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