Electric field due to arc of charge

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The problem involves calculating the electric field due to a circular arc of charge with a specified radius and total charge. The arc subtends an angle of 90 degrees, and participants are tasked with finding the charge density and the electric field at a specific point in relation to the arc.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of charge density and the electric field, with some attempting to integrate to find the electric field components. Questions arise regarding assumptions made during integration and the symmetry of the electric field.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the integration process and the need to consider the magnitude of the electric field. There is recognition of potential errors in previous calculations, and some participants are exploring the implications of these corrections without reaching a definitive conclusion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem requires answers in terms of the charge density and radius, and there is mention of corrections made by the instructor that may involve additional factors such as square roots. The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the correct interpretation of the problem requirements.

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Homework Statement


A circular arc of charge has a radius R and contains a total charge Q. If the angle of the arc is 90 degrees find:
a) the charge density of the arc
b) the electric field at point P in terms of the charge density L and the radius of the arc R

L should really be lambda and P is the center of the arc.

Homework Equations


E = (1/4pi Epsilon naught)
s is the arc length

The Attempt at a Solution


a) (I got this part right)
Q = Ls, L = Q/s
s = 1/4 circle = (1/2)pi R
L = 2Q/pi R

b) (I didn't get this part right)
I said that because the arc is symmetric, the electric field in the x direction has the same magnitude as the electric field in the y direction, so I only solved for one of them.
I decided to integrate dE = (1/4pi Epsilon) (dQ/R squared) * sin theta (for the x direction) from 0 to pi/2

I said that dQ = L * dS and that (this may very well be the part where I went wrong) ds = R*d theta for small theta so that I could integrate in terms of d theta.

When I integrated I got Ex = L/(4 pi Epsilon R) *-cos theta evaluated from 0 to pi/2
That last part ended up being 1, so for my answer I got Ex = L/(4 pi Epsilon R), which was wrong.

Hope you followed that. These are test corrections, so I might have made dumb math mistakes during my panic.

I believe the correct answer is something like what I got but multiplied by square root of 2.
 
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I follow your (very well executed) reply to that question but it still leads me to where I got in the first place.
I come to E = [tex]\int^{\pi/2}_{0}\frac{\lambda}{4\pi\epsilon R}\cdot sin\theta\cdot d\theta[/tex]
 
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I figured out exactly what happened. They were asking for the magnitude of the electric field. All you had to do was take your answer,

[tex]\textbf{E} = \frac{\lambda}{4\pi \epsilon_o R}(\textbf{i} + \textbf{j}),[/tex]

and find its magnitude! Don't you hate when you do things like that? You can't imagine how many times I've gotten back a test and was like, "Why the hell'd I do that?"
 
This may sound incredibly dumb, but how do I exactly go about doing that? We weren't given any values. The answer should be "in terms of the charge density lambda and the radius of the arc R."

On the test the teacher corrected my answer of [tex]E = \frac{\lambda}{4\pi\epsilon R}[/tex] by adding [tex]\sqrt{2} \chi[/tex] or perhaps [tex]\sqrt{2} x[/tex]
 
[tex]\sqrt{\textbf{E}\cdot\textbf{E}}[/tex] where [tex]\textbf{u}\cdot\textbf{v}[/tex] denotes the dot product.
 
Nikita23 said:
On the test the teacher corrected my answer of [tex]E = \frac{\lambda}{4\pi\epsilon R}[/tex] by adding [tex]\sqrt{2} \chi[/tex] or perhaps [tex]\sqrt{2} x[/tex]

I doubt she would have added anything besides [tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex] because that would be introducing an extra variable. Plus, she wanted it in terms of [tex]\lambda[/tex] and [tex]R[/tex].
 

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