Electric field of a ring and beads

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angle θ for a charged bead on a ring to achieve a specific electric field at the center. The user applies equations for the electric field components and attempts to solve for θ but encounters confusion regarding negative values in the cosine function. Another participant clarifies that the cosine of a negative angle is valid and that the inverse cosine can yield a positive angle. They also confirm that substituting the values into the user's equation should result in a positive angle for θ. The overall consensus is that the user's method is correct, and the confusion lies in the interpretation of the cosine function.
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Homework Statement


a plastic ring of radius R = 50.4 cm. Two small charged beads are on the ring: Bead 1 of charge +2.00 μC is fixed in place at the left side; bead 2 of charge +6.00 μC can be moved along the ring. The two beads produce a net electric field of magnitude E at the center of the ring. At what (a) positive and (b) negative value of angle θ should bead 2 be positioned such that E = 2.22 × 105 N/C?


Homework Equations


Enety by -q2sinθ/4πε0R^2
Enetx by q1/4πε0R^2 - q2cosθ/4πε0R^2


The Attempt at a Solution


so i found enet of y and x by equations above then did E^2=(q1^2+q1^2-2q1q2cosθ/(4πε0R^2)^2

which simples to

θ=inverse cos [(q1^2+q1^2- (4πε0R^2)^2E^2)/(2q1q2)]



basically when i take the cos its a neg number and you can't take cos of neg number so i am confused what i am doing wrong bc my professor said method was correct
 

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wbetting said:


The Attempt at a Solution


so i found enet of y and x by equations above then did E^2=(q1^2+q1^2-2q1q2cosθ/(4πε0R^2)^2

which simples to

θ=inverse cos [(q1^2+q1^2- (4πε0R^2)^2E^2)/(2q1q2)]
basically when i take the cos its a neg number and you can't take cos of neg number so i am confused what i am doing wrong bc my professor said method was correct


You can take the cosine of a negative number (e.g., cos(-30o) = .5) and you can also take the inverse cosine of a negative answer (e.g., inv cos (-.5) = 120o).

But, anyway, if I substitute the numbers into your expression for θ, I find that you should be taking the inverse cosine of a positive number and you get a positive angle for θ.

Overall, your work looks good to me.
 
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