Electric Field of a single charge vs 2 charges

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The discussion revolves around understanding the electric field generated by single and paired charges, specifically in the context of concentric spheres and parallel plate capacitors. Participants explore the implications of charge signs and their contributions to the electric field as described by Gauss's law.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants question why only the positive charge contributes to the electric field in certain configurations, while the negative charge seems to be ignored. There are attempts to clarify this through Gauss's law and the behavior of electric fields around charged surfaces.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing insights into the application of Gauss's law and the behavior of electric fields in different scenarios. There is recognition of the complexity involved in understanding the contributions of opposing charges, and multiple interpretations are being explored.

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Participants are navigating the nuances of electric field calculations, particularly in relation to the assumptions made about charge contributions in specific configurations. There is mention of potential misunderstandings regarding the application of concepts from electrostatics.

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So up till now we had problems where there was some sort of charge (line, surface, volume, point) and you pretty much had to find the electric field at some point (or as a function of some distance) or the same with voltage.

Now, I have to calculate the capacitance between to things (irrelevant what, it's not my problem) and looking at the examples from the book they say something like:

Two concentric spheres (one inside of the other, right?) have a charge of Q and -Q. Then they say that the electric field between them is Q/4pi(r^2).

Okay... how come only Q contributes to the field and not -Q?

Same thing with 2 plates, one Q and the other -Q, only Q is used for the electric field and -Q is ignored. I'm not understanding why...
 
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Never mind, it's all in the epsilons from Gauss' law...

I must have misunderrepresented the question.
 
your first question; why doesn't -Q contribute to the E field, the anwer is simple E field is force per coulomb first find the force it is Q^2/4pi R^2 then divide it by Q, second you asked the parallel plate capacitor, when you are trying to find the E field of an infinite sheet of charge you will find Q/2.(epsilon) each side of the plane but when you bring another plate with a -Q charge the charges will accumulate on one side of the conductors this is why you don't consider -Q's contribution, it would become the macroscopic example of coulomb's law for 2 particles
 
Hmm...memow's explanation isn't quite correct.

In the first case, simply apply Gauss's Law using a sphere in between the two spheres as your Gaussian surface. Note that the only contribution is from charges inside the Gaussian surface; therefore, the field between the spheres depends only on the inner sphere.

In the second case, what actually happens is a neat cancellation. Remember that the field of an infinite conducting plane is

[tex]E = \frac{\sigma}{2 \epsilon_0}[/tex]

where the direction of E is away from the plane (or towards the plane, if [itex]\sigma < 0[/itex]). The direction of E is important, because what you're doing is putting two oppositely charged planes side by side:

Code:
      |      |
  E1  |  E1  |  E1
 <--- | ---> | --->
      |      | 
  E2  |  E2  |  E2
 ---> | ---> | <---
      |      |

Note that, outside the planes, E1 and E2 have opposite directions, and therefore they add to zero. Inside the planes, E1 and E2 have the same direction, so

[tex]E = E_1 + E_2 = \frac{\sigma}{2\epsilon_0} + \frac{\sigma}{2\epsilon_0} = \frac{\sigma}{\epsilon_0}[/tex]

so in this case, the charge -Q does affect the resultant field.
 

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