Electric field of a sphere in a point A

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field of a hollow sphere with a given surface charge density at a point A, which may be inside or outside the sphere. The user has successfully derived the electric field for a ring but struggles with integrating this to find the field for the entire sphere. They initially set incorrect integration limits and received feedback suggesting that the integration should focus on the distance from the center of each ring to point A rather than using angular limits. The user acknowledges their mistakes but still seeks clarity on achieving the correct result. The conversation emphasizes the importance of proper integration techniques in electrostatics.
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My first homework for electrostatics course I'm taking is to find the vector of electric field of a completely hollow sphere (radius r, surface charge density σ in a point A, by integrating the electric field through the whole sphere. I already figured out the electric field of a ring in a point on the axis perpendicular to the plane of the ring and passing through its center and I'm supposed to use that. I basically know how I'm supposed to integrate it but I can't seem to get it to work.

Anybody care to help?
 
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not_waving said:
I basically know how I'm supposed to integrate it but I can't seem to get it to work.
Why? Show us your work.
 
Okay, so firstly i know the electric field of a ring anywhere on the z axis (1). I divide the sphere into infinitesimal rings, each occupying dtheta of the sphere, to get (2). Plugging in into electric field equation and integrating I get zero, which is true but only inside the sphere. However, the point I'm calculating the electric field in isn't necessarily in the sphere so it's wrong. I'm not good with LATEX so here's some pictures that outline my thoughts

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not_waving said:
My first homework for electrostatics course I'm taking is to find the vector of electric field of a completely hollow sphere (radius r, surface charge density σ in a point A, by integrating the electric field through the whole sphere. I already figured out the electric field of a ring in a point on the axis perpendicular to the plane of the ring and passing through its center and I'm supposed to use that. I basically know how I'm supposed to integrate it but I can't seem to get it to work.

Anybody care to help?
is A inside or ouside the shell?
 
rude man said:
is A inside or ouside the shell?
I'm supposed to derive both cases. I'd edit my first post to match the template but I don't know where's the edit button so my attempt at a solution is the second post.
 
Okay I figured I messed up my integration limits, they should be 0 and pi. Though, I still don't get the desired result.
 
not_waving said:
Okay I figured I messed up my integration limits, they should be 0 and pi. Though, I still don't get the desired result.
Since you already know what the axial E field is for a ring, I would suggest the integration is over a distance, not an angle - the distance from the center of each ring to M.
 
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