Electric field of two charges on an axis bisecting them

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field vector due to two positive charges positioned on the y-axis, with a focus on the axis that bisects them. Participants are tasked with deriving an expression for the electric field at a point along this axis and analyzing its behavior at various positions.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the electric field expression and expresses confusion about the meaning of positive and negative values of x, questioning the clarity of the problem statement. Other participants suggest reconsidering the geometry of the problem and clarify the positioning of the charges and the axis. There are discussions about the cancellation of components and the implications of bisecting the distance between the charges.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing feedback on each other's reasoning and calculations. Some have offered clarifications regarding the geometry and the interpretation of the variables involved. There is a mix of interpretations being explored, particularly regarding the direction of the electric field and the limits of the expression as x approaches infinity.

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There is mention of the assignment's due date and the pressure of upcoming exams, which may influence the urgency and clarity of the discussion. The original poster expresses frustration with the wording of the questions, indicating potential ambiguity in the problem setup.

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2 positive charges q are a distance s apart on the y axis
a) find an expression for the electric field vector at distance x on the axis that bisects the 2 charges

b)thy these sanity checks on your answer: what is the direction of the electric field for positive and for negative values of x? What is the limit of your expression for E_vector as x --> infinity

OK, these questions are somewhat simple, yet confusing; I don't get what they're really asking. Please help.

for a) what I get for a is E_vector net = (q/4piEo){[1/(s-x)^2] - [1/x^s]}j_unit N/C

for b) I don't get what do they mean by +ve/-ve values of x. Isn't x a distance? Then how could it be negative? What I do know that if the position is at infinity then r^2 would get really large to the point that E is zero.

What I did in a is assuming that x is somewhere between the 2 charges. Now if they say that x can be either positive/negative, what is that supposed to mean?

These questions just don't make sense. Please forgive me/don't flame me but it's 4 A.M. and I'm desperate trying to solve these problems when some questions have really poor wordings and are damn confusing, and just don't make much sense to the point I wish whoever make these questions would just stop and let the others who can compose better write up/make the questions instead.
 
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Okay,let's deal correctly with point "a"...I think you need to take another look at the geometry of problem,since it involves an isosceles triangle and the theorem of Pythagora.
Redo your calculations for point "a"...

Daniel.
 
I believe you have an incorrect mental picture of the geometry of the problem.
Heart said:
2 positive charges q are a distance s apart on the y axis
a) find an expression for the electric field vector at distance x on the axis that bisects the 2 charges
Let the axis that bisects the two charges be the x-axis. Thus one charge will be at point (0, s/2), the other at point (0, -s/2).

for b) I don't get what do they mean by +ve/-ve values of x. Isn't x a distance? Then how could it be negative?
Once you get the correct mental picture you'll see that "x" is the position along the x-axis: one side is positive, the other negative.
 
Thanks Daniel and Doctor Al,

Here are what I got, if you don't mind can you check them?

for a)

E_vector net = {q/[4 pi epsilon_0 (x^2 + (0.5s)^2)}cos(theta)*2 i_unit N/C, the j_unit components (vertical y axis) will cancel out, while the i_unit components will complement each other. (So there's only an i/x-axis components, no vertical components.) (Theta is the angle that the line drawn from x to s/s to x makes with the x-axis.)

BTW, does bisect mean that the axis will divide the distance between the upper and lower charges into 2 "equal" parts? I thought that bisect mean dividing a thing into 2 parts, but not necessary equal.

for b) The direction of the electric field will be to the right when x is on the positive side, left when x is on the negative side. And as x--> infinity, E_vector field will be zero.

Are these correct answers, thanks in advance. The prof hasn't covered this in class yet, the assignment is due on Thursday. However, I've got 3 exams to write this coming weekends/next week so I rather get these problems done now.
 
Heart said:
for a)

E_vector net = {q/[4 pi epsilon_0 (x^2 + (0.5s)^2)}cos(theta)*2 i_unit N/C, the j_unit components (vertical y axis) will cancel out, while the i_unit components will complement each other. (So there's only an i/x-axis components, no vertical components.) (Theta is the angle that the line drawn from x to s/s to x makes with the x-axis.)
Good, but express cos(theta) in terms of x and s.

BTW, does bisect mean that the axis will divide the distance between the upper and lower charges into 2 "equal" parts?
Yes.
for b) The direction of the electric field will be to the right when x is on the positive side, left when x is on the negative side.
Right.
And as x--> infinity, E_vector field will be zero.
What they want is how it approaches zero. (For example, 1/x and 1/x^2 both approach zero, but very differently.) When you've rewritten the field as I suggest above, look at the limit as x--> infinity. You should recognize it.
 

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