Electric flux calculatio in case of a cube

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric flux through a cube with an electric field defined as Ex=800 x^2 N/C and Ey=Ez=0. The flux through the cube is determined by the dot product of the electric field and the area vector, leading to the expression 800a^4, where a is the side length of the cube. It is clarified that only the surfaces ABCD and EFGH contribute to the flux due to the direction of the electric field, with the flux through EFGH being zero because the electric field at that plane is also zero. The subtraction in the flux calculation accounts for the opposing directions of the area vectors for the two surfaces. The final conclusion is that the total flux through the cube equals the flux through the ABCD surface alone, confirming that the flux through EFGH is indeed zero.
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Homework Statement


the electric field components in the figure below are Ex=800 x^2 N/C ,Ey=Ez=0 calculate the flux through the cube
a=assume 0.1 m
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The Attempt at a Solution


here flux of cube =flux through ABCD
=800a^2 i^.a^2 i^
=800a^4
=800 × (0.1)^4
=8×10^2 ×10^-4
=8 ×10^-2 Nm^2/C
But I don't understand this step =800a^4
I want to know how to proceed from 800a^2 i^.a^2 i^.
 
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gracy said:
I want to know how to proceed from 800a^2 i^.a^2 i^.
That's just a dot product between the E field on the ABCD plane, ##800a^2 \hat{i}##, and the area vector of this plane, ##a^2 \hat{i}##,
$$
800a^2 \hat{i} \cdot a^2 \hat{i} = 800a^4 (\hat{i} \cdot \hat{i}) = 800a^4
$$
with ##\hat{i} \cdot \hat{i}=1##.
 
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blue_leaf77 said:
800a2i^⋅a2i^=800a4(i^⋅i^)
so do we take i/j/k separately?
 
gracy said:
so do we take i/j/k separately?
We don't normally call them to be "separately", ##\hat{i}##, ##\hat{j}##, and ##\hat{k}## are unit vectors along the x, y, and z directions, respectively. In Cartesian coordinate, these three directions are perpendicular to each other, so, if you take a dot product between any two vectors along any two of these three directions, it must equal zero. Remember the dot product formula between vectors ##\mathbf{A}## and ##\mathbf{B}##, ##\mathbf{A} \cdot \mathbf{B} = |\mathbf{A}||\mathbf{B}|\cos \alpha##, with ##\alpha## the angle between ##\mathbf{A}## and ##\mathbf{B}##. The angles between ##\hat{i}##, ##\hat{j}##, and ##\hat{k}## are always ##90^0## hence the dot product between them must be zero.
 
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OK.One more doubt from this problem
gracy said:
flux of cube =flux through ABCD
WHY?
why can not it be flux through EFGH as well?
gracy said:
Ex=800 x^2 N/C ,Ey=Ez=0
Here it is not mentioned that E negative x is also zero.
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I thought it was already known to you when you write
gracy said:
here flux of cube =flux through ABCD
.
If I were to write the more complete expression of the total flux going through the cube, it will be
$$
\oint \mathbf{E} \cdot d\mathbf{a} = \int_1 \mathbf{E_1} \cdot d\mathbf{a}_1 + \int_2 \mathbf{E}_2 \cdot d\mathbf{a}_2 + \ldots + \int_6 \mathbf{E}_6 \cdot d\mathbf{a}_6
$$
where the integrals on the RHS account for the six surfaces of the cube. However since the E field is along the x direction, only two of those six integrals will survive upon the dot product with the area vector. Let's suppose that the surfaces ABCD and EFGH are the first and second integrals above, respectively. Then it becomes
$$
\oint \mathbf{E} \cdot d\mathbf{a} = E(ABCD) a^2 - E(EFGH) a^2
$$
What is the electric field in the EFGH plane?
 
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blue_leaf77 said:
∮E⋅da=E(ABCD)a2−E(EFGH)a2
Why is there subtraction?because of i^.-i^ i.e 1mltiplied by cos 180 degrees i.e -1?
 
blue_leaf77 said:
What is the electric field in the EFGH plane?
Not given.
 
That's why you have to calculate it. The field has the form of ##E_x = 800x^2##, now what is ##x## equal to for the EFGH plane?
 
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gracy said:
Why is there subtraction?because of i^.-i^ i.e 1mltiplied by cos 180 degrees i.e -1?
is this right?
 
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gracy said:
Why is there subtraction?because of i^.-i^ i.e 1mltiplied by cos 180 degrees i.e -1?
Yes, that's correct.
 
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blue_leaf77 said:
now what is xx equal to for the EFGH plane?
it's zero.So E=0 for EFGH plane.And therefore
flux of cube =flux through ABCD.Right?
 
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gracy said:
it's zero.So E=0 for EFGH plane
Right.
 
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Thanks .
 
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