Electricity and Magnetism Project

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around potential project topics for a laboratory course focused on Electricity and Magnetism (E&M). Participants share ideas, seek clarification, and express concerns about safety and feasibility of various experiments.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest "coin shrinking" and "can crushing" as interesting project ideas, noting the high voltages and energies involved.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of clarifying the participants' knowledge level and available equipment before suggesting project ideas.
  • Another participant mentions that the experiments require significant power and specific capacitors, which may not be readily available.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of conducting high voltage experiments, with suggestions for proper safety measures and equipment enclosures.
  • There is a suggestion to consult the instructor regarding the feasibility of the proposed experiments, as they may have prior experience with similar projects.
  • One participant expresses enthusiasm about the experiments but doubts the instructor's approval due to safety concerns.
  • Another participant notes that can crushing may require less energy than coin shrinking, hinting at varying levels of feasibility between the two ideas.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the potential of the suggested experiments but express differing views on their feasibility and safety. There is no consensus on which project is the best choice or how to proceed safely.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully explored the available laboratory equipment, which may limit the scope of possible experiments. There are also unresolved concerns regarding the safety and practicality of high voltage experiments.

Who May Find This Useful

Students or individuals interested in practical applications of electricity and magnetism, particularly those looking for project ideas in a laboratory setting.

MMS
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Hello everyone.

For this semester's laboratory, we are required to work on a project on the topic of E&M (preferably).
They've given us freedom of choice as to what we want to work on and I was wondering if any of you guys know some interesting and cool topic we (me and my partner) can study and investigate (it includes experimenting it as well).
 
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Coin shrinking and can crushing come to mind...

Note that this requires voltages and energies that should not be handled after a few beers.
On the positive side you can learn a lot about safe handling of high voltages and powers.
 
Interesting. Could you elaborate? :P
 
MMS said:
Interesting. Could you elaborate? :p

I think the person that needs to elaborate here is you.

1. You never clarify at what level you are at, and what you know. It is pointless to suggest something that is way beyond what you can do and comprehend.

2. You did not describe what equipment are available to you. Again, it will be a wasted effort to suggest you do something that you have no possibility of doing.

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
I think the person that needs to elaborate here is you.

1. You never clarify at what level you are at, and what you know. It is pointless to suggest something that is way beyond what you can do and comprehend.

2. You did not describe what equipment are available to you. Again, it will be a wasted effort to suggest you do something that you have no possibility of doing.

Zz.

That was kind of a joke...

Anyway, I think the course I took in E&M was pretty much at the highest level it could be taught. We covered every chapter of Purcell's E&M book (we didn't spend too long on the 9th chapter of waves since we have a course of its own about it) so I believe the level is not bad. Feel free to throw anything interesting at me.

As for the equipment available, I can't tell you exactly what it is since we've only been at the laboratory once so far and we haven't taken a too deep of a tour around it since the whole project thing was just thrown at us. However, the instructor told us that they will do their best to provide us with whatever equipment needed.

I'm sorry I wasn't clear the first time. It's just that this is the first time I'm doing something this "serious" and I have no idea what to think.
I hope I made it clearer now...
 
Both of these "use" currents in the "sample" that are induced by an external field coil that is energized rapidly. Doing the calculations for that is interesting and instructive.

For the actual experiment you need quite a bit of power, and capacitors that not everybody has sitting in the back of his attic.

Ask you instructor. Chances are that you are not the first one to come up with this idea.
 
M Quack said:
Both of these "use" currents in the "sample" that are induced by an external field coil that is energized rapidly. Doing the calculations for that is interesting and instructive.

For the actual experiment you need quite a bit of power, and capacitors that not everybody has sitting in the back of his attic.

Ask you instructor. Chances are that you are not the first one to come up with this idea.

I've just read a little about it and seen some videos. It's incredibly awesome and interesting. However, I kind of doubt the instructor will alow it to happen (also by the guy in charge of the laboratory) seeing the experiment requires pretty high voltages and energies. But I'll check it out tomorrow with him, maybe miracles do happen. :p

Thanks by the way!I'd love to hear other interesting experiments for projects that could be done.
 
Never underestimate the pleasure physicists take in blowing things up...

I guess can crushing can be done with less energy than coin shrinking.

These things can be done in a completely safe way, but it does take some effort (enclosure such that stuff does not fly all over the place, proper grounding, safety features on the HV system, ...). A lot of what I've seen on youtube videos was not exactly safe.

Learning about HV safety would be the most useful part of this experiment :-)
 

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