Electrochem - about the usage of standard pontential

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The discussion centers on the confusion regarding the use of standard electrode potentials to predict spontaneous reactions involving hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) and chlorine (Cl2), iodine (I2), and potassium iodide (KI). The key point is that for reactions to be spontaneous, one species must act as an oxidizer while the other acts as a reducing agent, which is why the correct pairs of electrode potentials must be chosen. Specifically, using the potentials for Cl2 and H2O2 (1 and 4) correctly indicates spontaneity, while using both as reducers (1 and 3) does not work because there are no electrons to balance the reaction. The discussion concludes with clarification that the initial conditions dictate which reactions and potentials can be applied. Understanding these principles is crucial for accurately predicting reaction spontaneity.
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Hi guys, I've got this question where i am abit confused by which value should be used.

Predict if a spontaneous reaction takes place between
a) H2O2 and Cl2
b) H2O2 and I2
c) H2O2 and KI

1/2 Cl2 + e- \rightarrow Cl- (E = +1.36) --- 1
1/2 I2 + e- \rightarrow I- (E =+0.54) --- 2
1/2 H2O2 + H+ + e- \rightarrow H2O (E = +1.77) --- 3
O2 + 2H+ + 2e- \rightarrow H2O2 (E = +0.68) --- 4

As I've seen the solution, my question is, why for a) and b) i couldn't use the value for 1 and 3?

for example for a) using the 3 and 1 value, i get a positive value which means it is spontaneous, but in my book, it uses the value 1 and 4 which is spontaneous too.

(sorry for the messy E value thing)
 
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1&3 means you are going to reduce both Cl2 and H2O2 - where are you going to take electrons from? 1&4 means one acts as an oxidizer, the other as reducing agent, and electrons nicely balance.

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Thanks borek. But i wonder why i couldn't revert the equation for 1? is it because it stated that it has to be Cl2 ?
 
Initial mixture doesn't contain Cl-. If you were asked whether Cl- can be oxidized to Cl2 by hydrogen peroxide, reversed 1 might be used as a clue.

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Thanks i think i got it now, so i take the value what was given at first :)
 
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