Electrodynamics Potential from charged sphere. I am lost :/

In summary, a sphere with a charge of ρ carries a potential V(z) that is a function of the distance z from the center of the sphere. The potential is calculated using the integrals of the Legendre polynomials and the multipole expansion of the potential.
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~Electrodynamics~ Potential from charged sphere. I am lost :/

Homework Statement



A sphere of radius R, centered at the origin, carries a charge density ρ(r,θ)=κ/r^2(R-2r)sin^2(θ).
κ is constant. Find exact potential.

Homework Equations



1/4∏ε∫ρ∂t/r

The Attempt at a Solution


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I do not think my solution is correct please help!
Thanks all for looking!
 

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Shouldn't it be ##\frac{...}{\sqrt{z^2+r^2-2zr\cos\theta}}## instead of ##\frac{...}{\sqrt{R^2+r^2-2Rr\cos\theta}}## ?

as ##\sqrt{(z-r\cos\theta)^2+r^2\sin^2\theta}=\sqrt{z^2+r^2-2rz\cos\theta}## is a distance from the point in the sphere to the point in z-axis
 
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Okay, yeah that makes sense. So the numerator looked good? If possible could you please work it out? I MUST have the integration done correctly! Thank you for responding!
 
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Yes, the numerator is correct, you get:

##V(z)=\frac{K}{4\pi\varepsilon}\int_0^{2\pi}\int_0^R\int_0^\pi\frac{(R-2r)\sin^3\theta}{\sqrt{z^2+r^2-2zr\cos\theta}}\,d\theta drd\varphi##

so try a substitution ##u=z^2+r^2-2zr\cos\theta##
 
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Using maple I got a ridiculous answer (attached)

What am I doing wrong?
 

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I don't know what is wrong. I calculated it in such a way:

##V(z)=\frac{K}{4\pi\varepsilon}\int_0^{2\pi}\int_0^R\int_0^\pi\frac{(R-2r)\sin^3\theta}{\sqrt{z^2+r^2-2zr\cos\theta}}\,d\theta drd\varphi=\frac{K}{2\varepsilon}\int_0^R\int_0^\pi\frac{(R-2r)(1-\cos^2\theta)\sin\theta}{\sqrt{z^2+r^2-2zr\cos\theta}}\,d\theta dr=(*)\\
z^2+r^2-2zr\cos\theta=u\\
\cos\theta=\frac{r^2+z^2-u}{2zr}\\
\sin\theta\,d\theta=\frac{du}{2zr}\\
(*)=\frac{K}{2\varepsilon}\int_0^R\int_{(z-r)^2}^{(z+r)^2}\frac{(R-2r)\left(1-\left(\frac{r^2+z^2-u}{2zr}\right)^2\right)}{2zr\sqrt{u}}\,dudr=...##
 
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pence said:
Okay, yeah that makes sense. So the numerator looked good? If possible could you please work it out? I MUST have the integration done correctly! Thank you for responding!
That's not how it works here. We don't do the problem for you. That's your job.

pence said:
Using maple I got a ridiculous answer (attached)

What am I doing wrong?
Using Maple for one thing. The point of this problem really is to learn how to do the math.

You should recognize the expression
$$\frac{1}{\sqrt{z^2+r^2-2zr\cos\theta}}.$$ Expand it in terms of Legendre polynomials.
 
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If I had a nickle every time someone says "I plugged it into maple". . .

Also, a table of integrals comes in very handy for EM problems.
 
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One should also say that the correct formula for the potential everywhere is (in SI units)
[tex]V(\vec{x})=\int_{\mathbb{R}^3} \mathrm{d}^3 \vec{x}' \frac{\rho(\vec{x}')}{4 \pi \epsilon_0 |\vec{x}-\vec{x}'|}.[/tex]
Here, however, I'd rather use the multipole expansion of the potential and solve Poisson's Equation
[tex]\Delta V=-\frac{1}{\epsilon} \rho.[/tex]
 

1. What is an electrodynamics potential?

An electrodynamics potential is a concept in physics that describes the potential energy associated with electric charges and their interactions with each other. It is an important concept in understanding the behavior of electrically charged particles and fields.

2. How is the electrodynamics potential calculated?

The electrodynamics potential is calculated using Coulomb's law, which states that the potential energy between two charged particles is directly proportional to the product of their charges and inversely proportional to the distance between them. This can be represented mathematically as V = kQq/r, where V is the potential energy, k is the Coulomb's constant, Q and q are the charges of the particles, and r is the distance between them.

3. What is a charged sphere?

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