Electromagnetic Induction: Solenoid & Magnet

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The discussion revolves around the concept of electromagnetic induction, specifically focusing on the interaction between a solenoid and a moving magnet. Participants explore the forces at play when a magnet is moved through a solenoid and the resulting induced current, referencing Lenz's law and the principles of Faraday's law and Ampere's law.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the phenomenon of an opposing force that prevents a magnet from entering a solenoid and suggests that this force is related to the conversion of mechanical energy to electrical energy as per Lenz's law.
  • Another participant identifies the opposing force as an induced magnetic field, which arises from the current induced by the changing magnetic field, thus providing a feedback mechanism that opposes the motion of the magnet.
  • A different participant discusses the broader application of these principles in generators and motors, explaining that mechanical energy can be converted to electrical energy and vice versa, emphasizing the importance of the coil's position within the magnetic field.
  • One participant shares a resource, recommending a YouTube channel that covers these concepts in detail, suggesting that it may provide clearer explanations than their own contributions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the nature of the opposing force and the mechanisms of electromagnetic induction. There is no consensus on a singular explanation, and multiple perspectives on the topic remain present.

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Participants reference different laws and principles (Lenz's law, Faraday's law, Ampere's law) without fully resolving the implications of these laws in the context of their discussion. The discussion also touches on practical applications but does not delve into specific mathematical formulations or assumptions.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying electromagnetic induction, including students in physics or engineering, as well as individuals curious about the principles behind generators and motors.

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I have just learned electromagnetic induction and it states that if you move a magnet through a solenoid, you would get an induced current.

Say, if you have a copper solenoid, and if you want to move a magnet through it, there will be something (maybe, a force) that would prevent the magnet from entering into the solenoid. Similarly, if you want to withdraw the magnet out of the solenoid, that 'something' would try to make the magnet stay in the solenoid.

According to Lenz's law, the mechanical energy to overcome that 'something' would be converted to electrical energy (the induced current).

So, what is that something?
 
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It's a magnetic field. There's a sort of 'feedback' going on. The changing magnetic field induces a current (Faraday's law), and this current in turn induces a magnetic field opposing the change by Ampere's law. It is this induced magnetic field that opposes the motion of the magnet.
 
Yes it will, it's called generator. It will give out electrical energy if you will use mechanical energy by rotating the coil, and will rotate by giving electrical energy, which is electrical motor. But it has to be done correctly to work so:

You must have coil in between of two magnets, so that it is in centre of the magnetic field.
There's really not much to tell about it, it just how universe is.
So if you will rotate said coil in magnetic field,(by not touching magnets)the work is done and it will give out energy equal to given energy, that is, will give out electrical energy if you apply mechanical. And works vice-versa for giving out mechanical energy if you apply electrical energy to wires.

hope that made things clear to you.
 
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