Electrostatic and Gravitational Forces

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The discussion focuses on the relationship between electrostatic and gravitational forces, specifically how to compare their magnitudes without needing a specific distance. The user expresses frustration over the calculations and seeks clarification on the formulas for gravitational force and electrostatic force. They derive a ratio of the forces, suggesting that by setting the magnitudes equal, they can eliminate the distance variable. Guidance is provided to simplify the variables involved, emphasizing that the charges and masses are equal. The conversation concludes with the user feeling more confident about their approach after receiving assistance.
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grscott_2000 said:
This has been driving me nuts! If a distance were specified I'd have it in an instant. Everything I've learned up to now has involved a separation between points.
Hint: Call the distance "D". Maybe you don't need the actual distance. :wink:

I know that Fgrav = -G * Mm/r^2
That's the one.
And that Fgrav = mg
No, that's the weight of the particles--their attraction to the earth, not to each other.
 
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grscott_2000 said:
If I do a bit of rearranging and combining, would I get

Fel/Fgrav = (k q Q) / (-G m M)
Just set Fel = Fgrav.
Get rid of that minus sign--you are comparing magnitudes.

This at least cancels out the distance. I feel like this is a step closer though. Maybe my idea is correct even if the algebra is a bit off?
You are almost there. Clean up the q & Q, m & M stuff: the charges are equal; the masses are equal (and given). Solve for the charge then plug in the numbers.
 
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Looks good to me.
 
Many thanks for your help... All I often need is a prod in the right direction
 
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