EM Wave: Phase of the electric and magnetic waves?

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The discussion centers on the phase relationship between electric and magnetic fields in electromagnetic waves as described by Maxwell's Equations. It is established that in a vacuum, the electric field (E) and magnetic field (B) are in phase, represented mathematically as E=E0*cos(wt-kr) and B=B0*cos(wt-kr). A common misconception is that the fields should be 90 degrees out of phase due to the nature of their generation; however, the correct interpretation is that the curl of the magnetic field is related to the rate of change of the electric field, not the fields themselves being out of phase.

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In a vacuum, the plane wave solutions to Maxwell's Equations are...
E=E0*cos(wt-kr)
B=B0*cos(wt-kr)
ie they are in phase. (See for example
https://www.physics.wisc.edu/undergrads/courses/spring08/208/Lectures/lect20.pdf
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/waves/emwv.html )

I don't understand how they can be in phase. I expected them to be 90 degrees out of phase because a changing electric field causes a magnetic field. So when the electric field is changing the most the magnetic field should be greatest. Since the differential of cos is sin, I'd expected the magnetic field to be 90 degrees out of phase. Where am I going wrong?
 
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Have you tried substituting them into Maxwell's equations to verify that they are indeed a solution? Make sure to use a suitable vector form for the solution. For a plane wave propagating in the z-direction, one such form is $$\vec E = \hat x E_0 \cos (\omega t - kz) \\ \vec B = \hat y B_0 \cos (\omega t - kz)$$ More explicitly in terms of components: $$E_x = E_0 \cos (\omega t - kz) \\ E_y = 0 \\ E_z = 0 \\ B_x = 0 \\ B_y = B_0 \cos (\omega t - kz) \\ B_z = 0$$ Consider for example the equation $$\nabla \times \vec E = - \frac {\partial \vec B}{\partial t}$$ On the left side you have first derivatives with respect to x, y, z, of components of ##\vec E##, which give you (for my example) either zeroes or sines. On the right side you have the first derivatives with respect to t, of components of ##\vec B##, which again give you either zeroes or sines.
 
PeterPeter said:
So when the electric field is changing the most the magnetic field should be greatest.
Maxwells equations does not say that. It says that when the electric field is changing the most the curl of the Magnetic field should be the greatest.
 

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