Energy considerations in strings

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a block hanging from a string, where the block's weight causes an extension 'l'. The elastic potential energy (P.E) is noted to be half of (M*g*l), while the loss in gravitational P.E is (M*g*l), raising the question of where the remaining energy goes. One participant suggests hysteresis as a possible explanation, but another clarifies that the potential energy for a string obeying Hooke's law is YAl^2/2L, with maximum tension equating to M*g for equilibrium. The conversation highlights confusion over energy calculations and references a textbook for clarification. The thread emphasizes the importance of understanding energy transformations in elastic systems.
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1. Homework Statement
The problem concerns a block(mass M) hanging from a light string attached to a fixed support, that is pulled down with a force of the block's weight that produces an extension of 'l'.


2. Homework Equations

The elastic P.E is half of (M*g*l).However the loss in gravitational P.E is (M*g*l), The question is where does the other half go?

3. The Attempt at a Solution
My guess is hysterisis as in rubber.
 
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aim1732 said:
The elastic P.E is half of (M*g*l).

Where did you get this from? This is not the potential energy for a string that obeys hooke's law.
 
Pengwuino said:
Where did you get this from? This is not the potential energy for a string that obeys hooke's law.
The p.e is YAl^2/2L. However F=YAl/L. Here the maximum tension here is M*g as the block is supposed to hang in eqilibrium. Hence half of M*g*l. Most textbooks abbreviate it as half of max.tension multiplied into extension.

As for the info it is from The Concepts Of Physics.
 
Ah my mistake, I am quite rusty on this sort of stuff unfortunately. Hopefully someone else can help you here.
 
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