Energy considerations in strings

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The problem involves a block hanging from a light string, where the block is subjected to a downward force equal to its weight, resulting in an extension of the string. The discussion centers around the energy considerations related to elastic potential energy and gravitational potential energy.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between elastic potential energy and gravitational potential energy, questioning the origin of the discrepancy in energy loss. There is a focus on the definitions and equations related to potential energy in the context of strings and materials that obey Hooke's law.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants clarifying the equations used for potential energy and others expressing uncertainty about their understanding. There is no explicit consensus, but attempts to clarify concepts and definitions are being made.

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1. Homework Statement
The problem concerns a block(mass M) hanging from a light string attached to a fixed support, that is pulled down with a force of the block's weight that produces an extension of 'l'.


2. Homework Equations

The elastic P.E is half of (M*g*l).However the loss in gravitational P.E is (M*g*l), The question is where does the other half go?

3. The Attempt at a Solution
My guess is hysterisis as in rubber.
 
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aim1732 said:
The elastic P.E is half of (M*g*l).

Where did you get this from? This is not the potential energy for a string that obeys hooke's law.
 
Pengwuino said:
Where did you get this from? This is not the potential energy for a string that obeys hooke's law.
The p.e is YAl^2/2L. However F=YAl/L. Here the maximum tension here is M*g as the block is supposed to hang in eqilibrium. Hence half of M*g*l. Most textbooks abbreviate it as half of max.tension multiplied into extension.

As for the info it is from The Concepts Of Physics.
 
Ah my mistake, I am quite rusty on this sort of stuff unfortunately. Hopefully someone else can help you here.
 

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