Energy levels and hydrogen atom

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The discussion clarifies that a solitary proton, resulting from the removal of an electron from a hydrogen atom, does not possess energy levels and cannot be classified as an atom (H+). The energy levels of a hydrogen atom arise from the interaction between the proton and the electron, which creates discrete quantized bound states. While physicists do not consider protons as atoms in particle collisions, chemists recognize H+ as a cation with similar characteristics to other singly-ionized atoms. The energy levels are fundamentally linked to the electrostatic interaction between the proton and electron, analyzed through quantum mechanics.

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if you take a hydrogen atom and strip off the electron so that you are left with a proton. does the proton have energy levels around it? can a solitary proton still be regarded as an atom (H+)
 
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brianhurren said:
if you take a hydrogen atom and strip off the electron so that you are left with a proton. does the proton have energy levels around it?
No. It is the system proton+electron that posesses discrete quantized bound states.

brianhurren said:
can a solitary proton still be regarded as an atom (H+)
It depends in what regards. From the point of view of physics, the answer is most probably no. I don't think the people at CERN think they are colliding atoms when they are colliding protons. But for chemists, H+ has many of the same characteristics of other singly-ionized atoms, and is to be treated as a cation when considering chemical reaction.
 
so the energy levels emerge only when the electron and the proton interact. are the energy levels a result of the fact that the electron and proton charges are quantized?. Is that like when iron fillings and magnetic field interact and produce field lines?(analogy only, completely different phenomenon)
 
In the first approximation, the energy levels of the H-atom are due to the electrostatic interaction between a proton and an electron as electrically charged particles, with these 2 particles seen through the eyes of quantum mechanics, while the interaction between them is in terms of classical electromagnetism (electrostatics).
 

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