Energy of a Hydrogen Flouride molecule in normal mode vibration

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The discussion focuses on determining the energy of a hydrogen fluoride molecule modeled as a coupled oscillator. The total energy is expressed as E = 1/2 k(xH - xF)², where xH and xF represent the displacements of the hydrogen and fluoride atoms, respectively. There is confusion regarding whether the total energy should include kinetic energy as well, with participants confirming that it should. Additionally, the relationship between the displacements is clarified by noting that the center of mass remains constant, leading to a connection between the two displacements. The conversation emphasizes understanding the signs of the displacements and the correct formulation of the energy equation.
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Homework Statement


Hi everyone! first post here :)

Basically, the question is as follows:
Consider a hydrogen fluoride molecule (atomic mass of H is 1g/mole and of F is 19 g/mole).
1. Write the energy of the system in terms of the displacements of both atoms.

There are other questions but if i can get this one I think the others will be fine.


Homework Equations


This is a coupled oscillator problem, so we're gona model it as two masses with a spring in between, that has a stiffness k. the equations are:
Total energy E = 1/2 kx2
General solution to the coupled oscillator differential equation: x = A cos(ωt) (we don't have to worry about phase shift)
Restoring force F by Hooke's law = -kx

The Attempt at a Solution



What I'm having trouble with is 2 things:

1st of all - my professor has written in his reference notes that the total energy E of another similar problem is 1/2 kx2. Shouldn't it be 1/2 kA2; the sum of 1/2 mv2 and 1/2 kx2?

secondly - I am a bit confused as to how I'm meant to work with the displacements - since each atom displaces in the opposite direction (I don't think there is any normal mode other than this one) how do i construct the problem? Anyway, here's what I got for a solution but I have no way of telling if its right since its an assessed assignment:

If we consider the displacement of the hydrogen atom as xH and that of the fluoride atom as xF then:

E = 1/2 kx2 = 1/2 k(xH-xF)2

So...here's the confusion now...the signs of the displacements xH and xF...what are they? @_@ and is the equation I am using even the right one?

Thanks a lot guys!
 
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Hi Dixanadu, welcome to the forum.
Dixanadu said:
Basically, the question is as follows:
Consider a hydrogen fluoride molecule (atomic mass of H is 1g/mole and of F is 19 g/mole).
Pedantry point: I believe it's "fluoride".
Total energy E = 1/2 kx2
Shouldn't it be ... the sum of 1/2 mv2 and 1/2 kx2?
Yes.
secondly - I am a bit confused as to how I'm meant to work with the displacements - since each atom displaces in the opposite direction

If we consider the displacement of the hydrogen atom as xH and that of the fluoride atom as xF then:
You know that the mass centre of the system won't change. That gives you a relationship between the two displacements. The extension of the 'spring' will be their sum.
 
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