Energy of a photon scattered due to the Compton Effect

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The discussion revolves around the Compton Effect and the energy of a photon that is scattered. Participants are attempting to understand the relationship between the energy of the incoming photon and the energy of the scattered photon, particularly in the context of maximizing the energy based on the scattering angle.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express confusion about how to apply calculus to maximize the energy of the scattered photon. There are discussions about the relationship between energy and wavelength, and the implications of the scattering angle on energy maximization.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring the mathematical relationships involved, while others are questioning the clarity of the problem statement. There is a suggestion to verify the wording of the question with an instructor, indicating a potential misunderstanding or miscommunication regarding the problem's requirements.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a specific condition where the maximum energy of the scattered photon is stated to be 2moc^2, which raises questions about the correctness of the problem statement and the assumptions being made.

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Homework Statement
Show that the maximum energy of a scattered photon in Compton experiment is 2moc^2(mo=rest mass of electron). Also find the corresponding angle at which this max energy occurs.
Relevant Equations
Delta lambda=h/moc (1-cos(theta))
I don't really know how to proceed. Can someone help me out in this?
 
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I don't really know how to proceed. Can someone help me out in this?
You can't get any help from anyone here if you say this. This is just ##\textbf{put-into-the-formula}## problem
 
No it really isn't ! I'm not that dumb really. I had tried using the relativistic energies of photon and electron, and the fact that delta lambda should be minimum for the scattered photon to have max energy, but to no avail.
 
Do you know how to use calculus to maximize a function?
 
Yeah, but on which formula should I use it? I'm confused. For delta lambda to be minimum, theta had to be 0. But then, how is the energy moc^2? Really, I don't get it.
 
PhysicsTruth said:
Yeah, but on which formula should I use it? I'm confused. For delta lambda to be minimum, theta had to be 0. But then, how is the energy moc^2? Really, I don't get it.
2moc^2, my bad.
 
phyzguy said:
Do you know how to use calculus to maximize a function?
PhysicsTruth said:
Yeah, but on which formula should I use it?
From the problem statement, it should be apparent that the relevant function is the energy of the scattered photon as a function of angle. Call the energy of the incoming photon ##E_0##, and call the energy of the scattered photon ##E##. Can you come up with a function ##E(\theta)##?

Hint: what is the relationship between ##E## and ##\lambda##?
 
jtbell said:
From the problem statement, it should be apparent that the relevant function is the energy of the scattered photon as a function of angle. Call the energy of the incoming photon ##E_0##, and call the energy of the scattered photon ##E##. Can you come up with a function ##E(\theta)##?

Hint: what is the relationship between ##E## and ##\lambda##?
I get: ##1/E##= ##1/E_0## + (1-cos(theta))/moc^2
But for E to be max, theta should be 0,so how to do it now?
 
PhysicsTruth said:
I get: ##1/E##= ##1/E_0## + (1-cos(theta))/moc^2
But for E to be max, theta should be 0,so how to do it now?
Can you please guide me how should I proceed further?
 
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Please help someone!
 
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PhysicsTruth said:
But for E to be max, theta should be 0
Indeed! and what does E equal in that case?

Hmmm... are you sure you copied the problem statement correctly and completely?
 
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The question says- **Show that the maximum energy of the scattered photon will be 2moc^2, irrespective of the energy of the incident photon.**
 
  • #13
I imagine most of the helpers here think that question is obviously wrong, which may be why you're a little confused as to what to do. You may want to check with your instructor if it was worded correctly.
 

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