Energy required to transfer an object to a higher orbit

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The problem involves calculating the energy required to transfer a spaceship from a circular orbit of radius R to a higher circular orbit of radius 3R around a planet. The context is centered on gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy in orbital mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to determine the energy difference by considering the total initial and final energies. They express uncertainty about calculating the velocity of the spaceship and seek hints for guidance.
  • Some participants question the relationship between centripetal force and gravitational force in the context of uniform circular motion.
  • Others explore the implications of the signs in their energy calculations, particularly regarding the expected positivity of energy in higher orbits.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. There is recognition of the need to clarify assumptions about energy signs and values in higher orbits. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationships between forces and energies, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. The original poster has a second attempt at the problem, indicating a need for further understanding before re-attempting.

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Homework Statement


A spaceship of mass m circles a planet (mass = M) in an orbit of radius R. How much energy is required to transfer the spaceship to a circular orbit of radius 3R?


Homework Equations


K=.5mv[tex]^{2}[/tex]
U[tex]_{g}[/tex]=-[tex]\frac{GMm}{r}[/tex]
v=2(pi)r/T
v=(ar)^.5

The Attempt at a Solution


I had no idea how to do this problem. I thought about subtracting the total final energy from the total initial energy to get the energy input required, but I didn't know how to find v. The two equations I could think of for find v are listed above

It would be nice if you guys could at least give me a hint as to how to solve this test problem, since I get to have a second try at it tomorrow.
 
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What force is needed to keep something in uniform circular motion? How does this relate to the gravitational force that makes a the spaceship orbit the planet?
 
D H said:
What force is needed to keep something in uniform circular motion? How does this relate to the gravitational force that makes a the spaceship orbit the planet?

That would be the centripetal force, which is mv^2/r
And that's equal to the gravitational force, GMm/r^2

Which leads me to v^2 = GM/r
I substituted that into the equations I had and got -GMm/3r for a final answer. Jeez, the solution was that simple? Thank you very much for helping me! :)
 
That simple. However -- are you sure about the sign of your result? Does that make sense?
 
D H said:
That simple. However -- are you sure about the sign of your result? Does that make sense?

Dang... you're right. It doesn't make sense since the energy should be greater at the higher orbit. And all the answer choices are positive anyways.

I see where I went wrong now. Thanks for the heads up!
 

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