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The discussion centers on calculating the total change in entropy for a metal piece with a heat capacity of 500 J/K as it undergoes cooling and heating in liquid baths. Participants analyze the entropy changes using the formula Delta S = Delta Q / T, with conflicting results regarding the total entropy change. One participant initially calculated a decrease of -66.7 J/K, while others argued that the signs were misapplied, suggesting the correct total change should be +66.7 J/K. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly accounting for heat transfer directions in entropy calculations. Ultimately, the consensus leans towards a positive change in entropy for the system.
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Homework Statement



A piece of metal of heat capacity 500 J/K assumed to be independent of temperature is at 500 K. The metal piece is cooled to 300K in two steps: it is first plunged into a liquid bath at 400 K. After cooling it is plunged into a colder liquid bath at 300 K. The metal piece is then heated to 500 K in two steps: it is plunged into a liquid bath at 400 K first and then into a liquid bath at 500 K. During the cooling-heating process, the metal piece and the liquid baths gain or lose entropy. The total change in entropy of the system (the metal piece and the liquid baths) is
1. 1500 ln (5/3)J/K
2. Zero
3. –200 J/K
4. +200J/K

Homework Equations



Delta S = Delta Q / T

The Attempt at a Solution



Don't get one of the options provided.

Please help.
 
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Hi shally, welcome to PF. I suspect there's an error in the question or the answers. Did you get 66.7 J/K?
 
Thank you for your effort. My ans. was -66.7 J/K.

I used the formula Delta S = Delta Q/T

Delta S = 500 (-100/400 -100/300 + 100/400 +100/500) = -200/3 J/K = -66.7J/K
 
So the entropy of the entire system decreases? This would be quite unusual.
 
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